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I won't flip out. They can draft literally any position other than QB/RB, and I'll be fine. In fact, with all the "best player available" talk we always hear I feel they've gone away from that a bit in recent drafts.
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What's left for pen options?
FVBrewerFan replied to Madhawk23's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Barnes isn't the only option for set-up man. (I don't even like that term, or the role in general, but that's a topic for another day.) Taylor Williams is an option there, and there are others. Yes, I know Williams doesn't have experience. Knebel was coming back from injury and turned out to be a great closer. Thornburg was injured off/on with limited experience before turning in a great season in 2016. Lots of examples of this. Honestly, if they think his arm is ready for the innings load, I would roll with Williams in that role. Find out ASAP if he can be a late inning guy for the next 5 years. -
2018 Breakout, Bounce Back, Bust, Sleeper Players
FVBrewerFan replied to Jenkins5's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
Yea, those definitions mean different things to different people. To me, an Ace means dominance. And there's even less than of those. TOR? Top of who's rotation? I guess I see it as a pitcher you would be very comfortable throwing out on the mound in a post-season game. I don't really like the term, but I get what people mean by it (generally) so it's fine. As an example, I would say Nelson and Anderson were TOR pitchers in 2017. -
Anything's possible, but I don't think signing Yo moves the needle on any other decisions they're making. Just one more arm in camp to see how they can use him, or even IF they can use him anywhere.
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Anyone else losing their patience?
FVBrewerFan replied to Madhawk23's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Yea, I get that. Sometimes it feels like there's nothing the Brewers can do to compete with the big boys. But I haven't lost patience. I mean, I may as well not even be a fan if I have no patience or hope this team can be a true contender in the future. -
2018 Breakout, Bounce Back, Bust, Sleeper Players
FVBrewerFan replied to Jenkins5's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
It's his K rate that concerns some people, at least that's my concern. It's rare to see someone make it as an effective MLB SP with a rather low k rate in the minors. Right or wrong, that's usually the first thing I look at when looking at stats for a MiLB pitcher. Not saying it's everything of course, just most important to me. -
Anyone else losing their patience?
FVBrewerFan replied to Madhawk23's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
They just outperformed their PECOTA projection by ten games and missed the playoffs by a game. What are you talking about? I'm talking about actually winning. Getting to the postseason more than four times would be great. And eventually actually winning a World Series. I get being happy with last season, I am. But to pretend like Brewers fans should just be alright with how things have gone over the course of the franchise is just nuts to me. I don't think anyone is "alright" with only 4 post-season appearances and no WS title. Not sure where that notion is coming from, I don't get that impression from anyone here. In fact, this is exactly why some of us don't want to make the same mistakes that led to this dismal history. Stearns is building a team that can contend consistently, and win at least one WS. He is not perfect, but they are definitely marching in the right direction. -
I understand trading for Realmuto - having a borderline elite catcher for at least 3 more years is very enticing. I also understand wanting Yelich, he is a fantastic young player. But I can't understand why people want to trade our best prospect, from our most crowded and talented position, for another outfielder. It is clear that we are overstocked in the OF, and we are eventually going to have to trade some of those players away - why would we want to bring back another OF when we could use that depth to address a real position of need like SP or reliever. For me, I don’t believe in Brinson. Injury prone and I’d rather trade high on him now. I also don’t see a glut of OF’s. There might end up being one but I don’t see it. Getting Yelich would allow us to really shop Santana if the deal was right. I’m a big believer that Yelich and Realmuto would be studs at Miller Park. Right. While I like Brinson maybe more than you do, there is risk. Brinson's ceiling may be a little, but his floor is lower- since Yelich has somewhat proven himself at the MLB level. In effect, I will give up that one year of control for that floor. Not too worried about the OF for OF part of it, there's 8,000 other deals than can be done to get a pitcher. Also, in my scenario Realmuto would be part of the deal. Long term catcher is another need that's not talked out much, so to have the opportunity to get a very good young one is a big positive.
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It does make a lot of sense. Marlins are willing, if not eager, to trade literally everyone. Brewers have plenty of assets to trade. Stearns is not afraid of making any deal, big or small, if he believes it will improve the team long term. Improving it in 2018 would just be a bonus. Thing is, extending Realmuto's contract is a big "if." I really don't like that he's only controlled for 3 years, so they would need to work out an extension for a couple years as part of the trade. I could be wrong, but isn't that pretty rare? If any of this is true though, that would explain why it's taking so long. I would not do 6 years of Brinson for 3 years of Realmuto. But add Yelich and have at lest 5 years of Realmuto, and I absolutely would make Brinson the centerpiece of a deal. And yes, as long as we're going that far ask for a pitcher as part of the deal. They wouldn't even clean-out the farm in a deal like that. That's a whole lot of ifs, but fun to speculate.
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I don't believe being 60 disqualifies anyone, nor does having limited experience. Great coaches come from everywhere, matter of right place, right time but mostly is he really good? Fritz Shurmer wasn't a spring chicken.
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If they decide to keep Hader in the pen for 2018, that doesn't mean he can't be moved to the rotation in 2019 right? Hey, I've been in the "Hader as a starter" camp too, but we don't know what the Brewers know. Maybe they want to keep the innings off his arm for another year. Maybe they want him to really focus on his secondary pitches. Who knows, but I'm not going to freak out if he's not a starter this year. He has a long career ahead of him, and they can make that transition any time.
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As I've been saying, we don't know for a fact he will be on the 40 man. If he is, that's fine for ST. Need some options for the 5th-9th starters are needed throughout the year. Yo may be one, may not.
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I don't mind the deal if it's cheap and if it's of the mindset you've noted. Also I'd hope we could potentially shift him to a pen role if he pitches decent but someone in ST pitches better. A cheap deal for ST depth, creates additional competition. Yea, honestly I have note even seen anything official yet that it's a MLB contract. Until it is, for all we know it could be MiLB contract with invite to ST. I doubt it, but it's not like Stearns believes he found a key piece to a WS title here or something. There will be plenty more moved in the next couple months. Some very minor like this, some larger. I just feel like some are trying to find some sort of deep meaning with this signing that isn't there.
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If he pitches great in ST, Yo is a cheap arm to throw out there until Nelson and/or Burnes are ready. If he implodes in ST, DFA him. What's the downside?
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Fire TT, MM, and most of the coaching staff. Cut Matthews, cut Nelson. Restructure Cobb. Do that and you free up almost $30MM in cap space, depending on how Cobbs deal is structured. Use that money to sign a stud CB, a pass rusher, and impact TE. Bring in a decent, cheap WR FA, Rodgers will make him good. Concentrate on O line in the draft.
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Martinez and Daniels are very good players. Homer said difference makers, which they are not. Neither is Matthews anymore. Dont get me wrong, Capers can go. But TT and MM can go with him.
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It is December 17th. We have no idea what the roster will look like in April. They could sign or trade for 8 relievers by then.
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Sign me up for plan C also. Stay the course. That said, signing Gallardo doesn't prove or disprove any plan. Simply a very low risk, cheap look at rotation depth. Way too early to know if he will be on the roster come April. Maybe they still sign or trade for two more starters and three more relievers. We don't know. What we do know is signing Yo doesn't prevent Stearns from doing literally anything else.
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You do know why, you just don't agree with it. And that's fine. No WS crown this year if they sign a big name reliever or not. So stick to the plan. Develop the young arms in the pen, pick up a few flyers- which usually results in at least one really good BP arm, and live to fight another day.
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And if that's not enough, the Cubs will get a starter at the trade deadline next season. We're all worried that not signing a relief pitcher is somehow preventing a WS title in 2018. Let's get real. This team can surprise again, with or without adding a reliever. What they can't do is make a legit run at the title. Stick to the plan. Build a great young team while maintaining a great farm system. That way you become a sustainable contender, and can even afford to go for broke once or twice without literally giving away the farm. Trading a few prospects is fine. In fact likely necessary given the 40 man roster crunch next year. So trade a couple for an arm? Sure, why not. But that's superfluous. Cubs, Dodgers, Nats are all in not to mention some AL teams. If the Brewers signed Mariano Rivera in his prime it would not be nearly enough. Some young talent has arrived. More will arrive next year. That will be the foundation, there are no shortcuts.
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Brewers Biggest Need
FVBrewerFan replied to BrewCrewBlueDevil's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
#1 ranked farm system, and a team that wins 57 games. Sign me up! First, that would be fine with me. I think some people believe we're two years farther along in the rebuild than we really are, but that's just my opinion. If they won 57 games I would be fine with that if we had another injection of high-end young talent. But the real question for the "win now" crowd is why would trading those guys equal a 57 win team? Last year they were supposed to win 67 games, and surprised. Trades don't have to involve getting A or AA players in return. Sometimes the return is MLB or near ready MLB players. (Santana, Shaw, Anderson, Broxton for example.) But don't worry, there's no chance Stearns is able to get proper return for all those players to trade them. Even if he did, I doubt he would trade all of them. -
Anyone else losing their patience?
FVBrewerFan replied to Madhawk23's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Wrong. Feliz flaming out paved the way for Knebel being the closer most of the year. If they had signed one of the other late inning guys available that likely wouldn't have happened. -
Brewers Biggest Need
FVBrewerFan replied to BrewCrewBlueDevil's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
1. Trade Braun for future salary relief. 2. Trade Knebel for a big haul. 3. Trade Santana for a massive haul. 4. Trade Thames or Shaw for even more young, controllable talent. 5. Trade Broxton for a Lind type package. -
Textbook case proving literally any player can be linked to any team this time of year. I don't even read that click bait that comes across my phone anymore.
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Christian Yelich
FVBrewerFan replied to Warning Track Power's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
This is a move I could get behind. A player with 5 years of control, and one that I believe will only improve. Yes, you could say this is the very reason the Marlins wouldn't part with him. But the Marlins are a unique franchise, and when they tear it down they REALLY tear it down. But the Brewers already have too many OFs!! Yes and no. This would open the door to trade Santana for pitching and/or a catcher. (That's another hole long-term that never gets mentioned.) I've always been a Santana supporter, but my vision of the future includes three OFs who are plus defensively. Or, move Santana or Braun to 1B. Not sure if that's even an option, just throwing it out there. Now you have Yelich, Brinson, Phillips. Maybe Broxton is still around, maybe you have to include Braun in the mix if he isn't traded or moved to 1B. But that's the type of OF I want. Harrison, Ray, artist formerly knows as Clark, others on the way??? Great, that's not a problem. Too much talent is never a problem. I mean, if SI is right (big if), Marlins may be not only willing to field offers but WILL move Yelich if he wants no part of a complete tear down to the ground rebuild.