Isn't that the purpose of tERA? It takes into account batted ball types. And again the Brewers aren't among the Phillies, Giants and Braves but are in the next group. The Phillies, Braves and Giants are alla round 3.5 whilte teh Brewers and Cardinals at right around (4.07 and 4.01). The Brewers starters are at 4.25 including Estrada. Usually these numbers are fairly similar to FIP anyway but for the Brewer starters: Greinke FIP 2.87 tERA 3.50 Gallardo FIP 3.83 tERA 4.06 Narveson FIP 3.50 tERA 4.34 Wolf FIP 4.41 tERA 5.21 Marcum FIP 3.65 tERA 3.87