I posed a question yesterday in one of the TGJ threads in hopes of starting a dialogue on one of my favorite topics: What level of slugging would a leadoff hitter with a .360 OBP need for a team to score the same number of runs as they would on a team with 8 league average hitters? Just for argument's sake, I'm going to use the 2006 AL averages as my data-set. (This largely eliminates pitchers batting.) 5607 AB, 804 Runs, .339 OBP, .437 Slg. (147 OXS, .776 OPS) I'm going to also assume that the leadoff hitter gets 1/9 of the total ABs for a team. There is some round-off there...it should be a bit higher....but I'm assuming that washes out when the leadoff hitter takes a few days off. (Edit: I'm also going to standardize things by using Expected Runs Created = 830, rather than actual runs...to keep the formula consistent with expectations.) RC = AB * OBP * Slg 830 = 5607 * (8/9 (.339) + 1/9 (.360)) * (8/9 (.437) + x/9) 830 = 5607 * (.3013 + .04) * (.3884 = x/9) .4337 = .3884 + x/9 .0453 = x/9 x = .407 Feel free to re-check the math, but a player with a .360/.407 stat line (146 OXS) in the leadoff spot, surrounded by league-average hitters, would cause his team to score the same number of runs. When I posed the question, I suggested that I thought the player's OXS would be below the league average. I tend to reject the approach of trying to maximize stat production by simply maximizing OPS at every position individually - you have to make some attempt to view the team's production in the aggregate, IMO, to really determine whether a move benefits a team. A player with a high, consistent OBP is far more valuable, IMO, than the OPS crowd would seem to assume that he is. (Note: As I suggested back in the original thread, I'm not going to presume that Gwynn - or any particular hitter - is that consistent, high OBP player.)