Meant punt. Sorry. It was directed at those who say that 09 should be forgotten. What people forget is that this team should be largely intact next year, and you would hope, be better. The guy who I hold out the most hope for is Rickie. I really don't know what his ceiling is. Everytime someone tries to write him off, he goes off for a frozen rope to put us up. But this isn't the place for that rant. What my main point was with Betancourt is that teams just don't give up their set-up men when they plan on cotending in the near future. They can give up on this year, slightly retool, and come back ready to contend for the AL next fall. But Betancourt is a cornerstone to their contention. He compares well with Scot Shields, except Shields has had more success closing games. And, to be honest, I think we need a pitcher who we control for more than two months, given our economic situation and Sheets. Barring such a pitcher hitting the market, I don't know whether CC would do enough to warrant what it would cost. A few weeks ago, when both us and the Cubs were on our respective tears, would CC have been a difference maker? If we had the early season CC, he would have been a difference maker, for the other team. In the end, much like the Boston Red Sox did with Johan Santana, all we have to do is give the appearance of offering a good amount, hiking up the price past the threshold of what the Cubs can trade, and really, what do they have? The only thing I could think of that might interest them would be The Riot, if he could play 2B for them, and they could switch Cedeno to SS. But really, they would have to prefer one of our big two... "Seriously, we'll give you both! Yup Ellsbury AND Lester. err Gamel and LaPorta. Well really...we can only give you one, but with quite the prospect-pu-pu-platter. Well it's more of a doggie bag. Okay, we'll give you Steve Sollman, and you'll LIKE it." And come October, to be honest, I'd trust Greg the Magi more than CC the Snowman. Really, I'd trust the Soup Kitchen in the NLCS more than I'd trust CC's numbers from last year.