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  1. Not really for that team. There aren't any good 2B candidates and they are set at every other position and in the rotation. This is just about the only place they could expect to add wins.
  2. I wonder how much the deferred money improves the value of this deal. The number sounds insanely high but with the money spread out so far in the future maybe it isn't quite as bad as it looks. Only $7M each of the next 2 seasons gives them a lot of wiggle room.
  3. Sounds like a joke about Melvin because that is the type of verbiage he uses right before he ends up trading a guy.
  4. Because Yount hit over 25 HR just one time. Way too much of Yount's value is tied up in stats that people don't pay any attention to. The same way that Ben Zobrist has been one of the best players over the past 4 years but has only 1 all star game and that was the year he hit a bunch of HR to go with the great defense and doubles and walks.
  5. More useful than say reading what TH has to say or buying a baseball magazine and people still do that.
  6. I did hear one interesting argument for putting them in the HOF. Baseball players have been cheating since the game was invented. Throwing games for gamblers, spit balls, scuffing the ball, stealing signs, taking greenies, being insulting to players of other race, spiking with cleats etc. All of these things probably break the character flaw. It isn't really fair to make a distinction on steroids just because it was more effective when the only reason these older players did not do the same is because they could only use what was available to them at the time. At the end of the day all of these players used whatever they could to get an advantage even if it was against the rules or against the law. That player who did greenies to bounce back faster would have used steroids most likely if it were available. In effect these players are being punished for playing when they happened to play. I think the guy has a pretty valid point that the character clause itself probably should just be removed and it turned into a more historical award since it has been ignored for most of history so far.
  7. They are still in the museum. You can still learn the history of the players. They just don't have a plaque. I'm fine with leaving them out. I'm also fine with detailing the known steroid use in their plaque. Either way works for me.
  8. I have no issue with someone being left out on character if there is some sort of proof. Some loose evidence like there were whispers in the clubhouse about him or he looked big or had a good year later in his career or he had back acne is where I draw the line though.
  9. Steroid use at one point was completely rampant in the NFL and still probably is.
  10. But again you are completely ignoring the fact that this was also an expansion era which is always a spike in HR. It has been proven that in the early 2000s the balls were at best inconsistent and at worse completely juiced. One fluke year by a 15 HR guy who hits 40 is a lot different than saying steroids turned a 15 HR guy into a 40 HR guy too, even if steroids were involved. If someone like Piazza is guilty of steroids he likely would have been a 25+ HR guy who turned into a 35 HR guy, he isn't some 15 HR a year guy without them. They have tested steroids and struggled to find any correlation to their use and increased power in the first place, it certainly isn't a 20+ HR spike.
  11. You are grossly overestimating how much steroids help. There is absolutely no way they turned even one 15 HR guy into a 40+ HR guy.
  12. You can believe this but it is completely absurd to believe it. Unless you honestly think that only like 5 or 6 guys did steroids in the entire steroid era. It might turn a 35 HR guy into a 45 HR guy but that is the absolute max that makes any sense given the time frame and how players performed during it. The expansion teams and the juiced balls almost certainly did more than steroids in creating HR in that period. Not really any logical argument that says otherwise unless you think steroids were a minor issue instead of the major issue it sounds like they were. I mean seriously if every 15 HR guy turned into a 40 HR guy because of steroids we'd have seen 10k plus HR in that era.
  13. The only studies I've seen suggest that the effects of steroids are minimal at best. But even if they are just being used to keep you at 100% all year that is certainly an advantage.
  14. Yeah this list was awful. I enjoyed the specific write ups though.
  15. They were no more illegal than say smoking pot was though. In 1991 they were unofficially said to be against the rules in a memo that carried no power. They were actually written against the rules in 2002 but there was no penalty put in place until 2005. If you are talking moral compass they were no worse than greenies or using a spitball. If you are talking how much impact did they have on the stats it is a larger effect but not nearly as large as people want to claim.
  16. The problem is usually that they don't for enough guys, not that they vote for too many. Next year I would probably want to vote for more than 10 guys, the ballot is just way too packed since the voters haven't voted in guys they should have the past few years. There are a lot of guys who refuse to vote for more than 5 or 6 and guys who won't look deeper into numbers, they vote just by how the name looks in their head.
  17. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2013-zips-projections-milwaukee-brewers/ That has us as a roughly 80 win team keeping in mind it is pretty heavily regressed so a lot of teams come out in the 75-85 range. Pretty much comes down to how the rotation ends up doing since it is such a high variance variable.
  18. Barry Bonds would disagree with you, he became jealous of Sosa and McGwire and wanted to show everyone how great the best player on the planet would be on steroids and it turned out to be better than Sosa and Mcgwire. But again this was during the expansion era which always inflates HR and the balls have been proven to have been juiced as well. He saw a 30 HR jump coming from multiple sources, not just steroids. I don't think he was on steroids back in his 35 HR years and I think the expansion and the ball would have jumped him up to the 40+ he usually sat at even without the steroids. What the steroids did more than anything was keep him on the field and at maximum health at an age when he should have seriously been declining.
  19. So was 1993 and 1998, both of which are in the 'steroid era'. Expansion definitely had something to do in all of this offense as did the balls which were wound tighter in those years. Testing showed that balls from 1999 flew 48 feet farther than balls from 1942 when the same pressure was applied to them. Another group tested McGwire's 70th HR ball and found it was juiced. There was a lot more going on here than just steroids.
  20. My 2014 ballot would probably be. Maddux Glavine Thomas Biggio Trammell Raines Piazza After that I would have to look a lot closer at guys than I have and there isn't much room left.
  21. This makes me think of one of my favorite lines in Major League. Board Member #1: I've never heard of half of these guys and the ones I do know are way past their prime. Charlie: Most of these guys never had a prime. Rachel Phelps: The facts are, we lost our two best players to free agency. We haven't won a pennant in over thirty-five years, we haven't placed higher than 4th in the last fifteen. Obviously, it's time for some changes. Board Member #2: This guy here is dead. Rachel Phelps: Cross him off, then.
  22. What I think is far less important than what I know or don't know. I don't think Brady Anderson used steroids because I don't see why he would ever have stopped using it after that season. I don't think there is really any proof on Piazza and I would gladly vote him in rather than just assume. Is there any reason to assume all the players are clean now or do I have to just not vote in anyone who has some mediocre years and suddenly gets good because they must be on something? I think the big HR explosion was as much about the expansion era pitching and a livelier ball as it was about steroids as well. I also think this is why it is important to lean on league adjusted stats instead of relying as heavily on counting stats.
  23. Why did Bert Campaneris hit 22 HR in 1970. Why did Brady Anderson not keep hitting 50 HR a year? How do you explain Dale Sveum's power in 1987 or Phil Plantier in 1993? Are we just assuming everyone in Toronto is on steroids now that Bautista did what he did followed by Encarnacion? Why wasn't Keith Hernandez taken until pick #785? How did Sandberg make the HOF after being pick #511? I'm fine with people not voting for someone with a serious link to steroids but when you are just looking at the numbers and assuming they did it, that is bad, especially when you are talking about players with a full HOF resume.
  24. Fair enough but a counterpoint is show me even a tiny shred of concrete evidence that they did steroids because most of these guys don't have anything. They have the court of public opinion condemning them with no real proof other than his head looked big or his back had acne. This is a pretty clear case of guilty until proven innocent.
  25. That would be terrible. No. It would be completely logical. Let the people visit the hall judge the players one way or the other. The hall itself is a place of history. As long as you aren't just ignoring the history this is such a non issue. When Braun comes up for a vote and he doesn't get in because of some stupid test that wasn't handled properly and leaked when it shouldn't have been I'll be completely pissed. There will be players who did steroids in the hall by that point without a shadow of a doubt and others will be held out because people decided they were guilty without any real proof. I guarantee at least 1 player gets held out of the hall because of suspicion while they are actually innocent and multiple players get in even though they are guilty. The entire situation is a mess and can't be handled properly.
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