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Breaking Down the NL Central - Baseball Tonight version
Ennder replied to RyDogg66's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
The Astros have a very average offense so far this year and it is old so could easily slip some in the second half, the pitching is where it will really fall apart though. -
If by pretty long you mean 5 games then sure. Parra had a 4.39 ERA last year and peripherals that were better than his ERA. He had an ERA in the mid 4's just a month ago with peripherals that were again better than his ERA. I know you really like to pile it on when you don't like a player but comments like this are just so far off base. Parra may not recover from this, just look at Fausto Carmona and Dontrelle Willis for examples of guys who lost their command and never got it back. But there are examples of pitchers who did come back from control issues like this as well, there is no reason to give up on a guy like Parra.
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Can't believe we are going to lose 5 of 6 at home to a pair of sub .500 teams and especially losing 2 of 3 to this White Sox lineup which is just terrible.
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Only if he is very efficient while stealing. Remember that every CS negates 2 SB so his net steals aren't really all that high.
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Which one doesn't Gallardo have? He's got great stuff, he has a great demeanor and his location(I assume this is the one?) is pretty good especially considering his age and experience.
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The mental side of the game doesn't matter at all when you discuss things like OPS though. It doesn't matter if a player gets his OPS from being confident or because he is scrappy or because he is big or because he is talented. Stats incorporate both the physical and mental side of the game.
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If you really believe this we will have to agree to disagree because I don't think that is anywhere close to true, it is just a cliche. I don't care how much I believe that I can hit a 100 MPH fast ball I just don't have the talent to do it. I don't care how confident a pitcher is in their pitch it won't always be a strike.
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Grounder down the line is a double. Gwynn has less power than Counsell does to put it frankly. He might have Kendall beat though.
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Confidence or no confidence the bottom line is he has to locate his pitches better. No amount of confidence is going to make up for not being able to locate his breaking stuff which he hasn't done all year and which he struggled with off and on last year.
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I don't see how they could bring him back up unless he has like 5 or 6 dominant starts in a row and by then we'll probably have someone set in the rotation and not want to replace them. So I gotta agree that he doesn't come back up unless there is an injury to someone.
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That's fine, the statement probably was too strong. I meant it more as a global comment in that I don't think he has failed to throw strikes all season just because of his mental state but I can see how it looks outside of my internal thought process and yeah it was a bit too strong.
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Ok I should rephrase it, the ball is not going where he wants it to. Early in the year he was missing off the plate, lately he is missing on the plate. I only see one arrogant poster here... You are the one that is saying it is obviously just a mental problem and it can't possibly be anything else. He is just mentally weak end of story that is the only problem with him. Just because I don't think his problems are just mental and just because I don't believe body language tells the whole story doesn't make me arrogant. Manny Parra's body language was 100% the exact same last season and he was very effective, his body language isn't making him have problems locating. This isn't some unique issue where Parra is different than everyone else, he is just another young pitcher having problems locating pitches. The recent struggles might be a mental thing, I can buy that much since he knew his job was on the line. But Parra hasn't commanded his pitches all year and it isn't just because he is mentally weak and just wants to roll up into a little ball and cry to mamma, I'm not buying that for a second.
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There have been plenty of pitchers who look uncomfortable on the mound but pitched fine, Al Leiter is a great example. Every time they hit him he grimaced like it was the end of the world. Body language has absolutely nothing to do with success at the major league level in my opinion. Parra isn't throwing strikes, has nothing at all to do with his mental state, it is a physical thing like with every other pitcher who can't throw strikes.
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Could be nate82. The entire situation does seem a lot like the Capuano one after they abused him his best season to try to get him 20 wins. The next year his peripherals looked ok but the results weren't nearly as good and then he had arm problems. I agree with you that it isn't just mental, his control is just too off for that to be the case. At the very least his mechanics are probably in need of some work.
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Pre Prince (includes 2007): 145.1 IP, 3.90 ERA, 1.49 WHIP, 9.10 H/9, 4.33 BB/9, 7.61 K/9 Post Prince (includes playoffs): 108 IP, 6.42 ERA, 1.81 WHIP, 11.67 H/9, 4.58 BB/9, 8.5 K/9 What are the numbers from the Fielder incident until September though which is where he started to have problems. You would think if the Fielder thing 'caused a problem' it would have been immediete. I'm guessing there is no cause and effect here. Those numbers are pretty astounding though, almost the entire difference appears to just be in hits allowed.
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That is a pretty good comparison. Branyan is a guy that stat guys love but casual fans hate and Gwynn is just the opposite. I don't know if it is sustainable or not but Gwynn's plate discipline in AAA was greatly improved this year and he displayed those on base skills back in AA as well. If he can find a way to hit .280 with a .360 OBP he has some value at CF. That park should help him out as well since it has such a large OF, great for slap hitters.
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Maybe he'll be the next Roy Halladay http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif. Halladay went 149 IP of 3.92 ERA his first season and followed it up with a 10.64 ERA in 67.2 IP the next year and has been arguably the best pitcher in baseball since he came back up. Guess he could be the next Fausto Carmona too who hasn't been effective since falling apart!~
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Breaking Down the NL Central - Baseball Tonight version
Ennder replied to RyDogg66's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I didn't have an easy way to look it up but I found a list of 5 games that were nationally televised last year, I know we had more than these original 5 as they added a few during the season. Apr 12: 5-3 win over the Mets May 24: 5-2 win over the Nats June 13: 2-10 loss vs Twins June 20: 5-8 loss vs Orioles Sept 5: 3-2 win vs Padres So last year I don't imagine we were too terrible in them. -
But again that is stats abuse. If Parra goes 175 innings with 2.20 ERA and then his final 25 innings he gives up 100 ER, you can't see he was 'terrible all year'. He was terrible for 25 innings in that case. He had an .661 OPS against in July last year and an .707 in August, he was not terrible those months. His bad second half was really just a few bad outings in September. If you want to say he has stunk since last September I can give you that much but if you start trying to say he was bad in July and August you are mistaken. I think you send him down for the rest of the year to get things straightened out. Not just a 2 weeks and back up but the rest of the season. Then next year he competes for a job in spring training.
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I think he should get sent to AAA or AA but lets be realistic here, his 'poor second half' last year was a couple bad starts at the end of the season. He had 2.76 K/BB in the 2nd half which is fantastic. Don't try to make it sound worse than it is. He has not been able to throw strikes this year and it finally caught up to him over the past few starts.
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I don't know but he doesn't chase very many out of the strike zone and he makes good contact in general on balls in the strike zone, so it is probably true. Right now his only positive run value pitch is the fast ball, hopefully he starts picking up no the off speed stuff better.
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I see no reason to move him to the bullpen, you send him down to AAA or even AA and have him work on his mechanics and try again next year if he proves himself in spring training.l He wouldn't be the first lefty to completely lose it for a year and then get it back but I don't see how they'll be able to trust him this season given how close we'll be in a playoff race.
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I'd think they have to send him down after today, that is 4 brutal games in a row now. Hendrickson never put up good stats even in the minors, he just had a flukey low ERA one season. Pretty different situation. Parra also had success in the majors before this year which little Ben never did.
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Sure but for my money the top 30 pitchers in baseball are all aces. The fact that the run scoring environment of today makes the 30th best guy not look amazing doesn't change it. In today's game any pitcher who keeps his ERA under 4 on a regular basis and goes 6-7 innings on a regular basis is probably really an ace, it just isn't the definition most use.
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I'm not much of a fan of the term ace because I think the best pitcher on every team is the team ace so there are 30 of them, but going by the definition you are using I wouldn't say the stuff has to be great but they have to go deep into games and pitch well on a consistent basis and do it for multiple seasons. So someone like Kazmir or Harden wouldn't be an ace, they just leave the game too early too often. Halladay, Lincecum, Sabathia, Peavy, Santana, Hamels are the only sure things I can think of. Peavy being a little questionable because of the park he plays in. Haren, Beckett, Hernandez, Oswalt could all make a strong case as well. Guys like Greinke, Gallardo, Johnson could become aces with a little longer track record. I forgot Webb in my initial post who would go in the ace list if he weren't injured. Lackey would probably go into the has a strong case if he were healthy as would Sheets. Not sure what to do with the injured guys in the discussion.
