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  1. I don't think Vaughn has much of a chance to see the Brewers roster unless they trade Rhys. Bauers' best quality for our team is that he is a LHB option. If we trade him it will be Ernesto coming up to replace ... not Vaughn. Vaughn becomes an option if we need a RHB at 1B after a Rhys trade.
  2. There is going to be a lot of "Who?!" from Brewers fans watching today when Avans comes in late to pinch run..
  3. When do the Brewers start getting royalties from the White Sox current rotation?
  4. we are sending cash also apparently... https://x.com/Brewers/status/1933547522255171790
  5. Well, 1/3 of this request has been granted.
  6. Dang, looking at the path Vaughn took... He was kind of done a little dirty by the White Sox? He was in A+ ball, then COVID happened, then he debuted with the big league club.. He skipped 2 full levels in the minors.. Whether that is good or bad who knows. Just unique.
  7. I agree.. just saying Civale didn't give the situation a second to breathe.
  8. I guess the biggest surprise to me with Civale is how quickly he and his agent pulled the trigger on the trade request as it seems. I understand the Brewers could have been talking to him this entire time and letting him know he was the odd man out no matter who it is that comes back or something like that... But I would think if Miz gets lit up in his first start or two that they would send him back down and Civale would be right back in the rotation in a week's time.. But now I'm not sure if that would happen given the sequence of events. He didn't let the process play itself out even just a little bit..
  9. I understand I'm speaking a little out of pocket when referencing something Hank Aaron said - but "read the seams" usually refers to sitting fastball and watching arm slot/ball in hand from a pitcher to catch his grip and adjust from there. That works when Chris Bosio is throwing you an 88 mph fastball and a 74 mph curve and that is the whole arsenal (no disrespect). Paul Skenes throws like 14 pitches from the same arm slot and they all move a different way. Anyone who says they are reading the spin out of his hand and correctly identifying which way the ball is moving is selling you a song. There is still an aspect of "read the seams" that apply to the game ... but it is more about seeing the grip rather than reading the spin. When an announcer says a pitcher "hides it well" ... he is referring to not allowing a batter to see the grip before release. But even then everyone has tape of everything these days. Lazardo from Philly faced Mil/Tor in back to back starts and gave up a million runs then 5 days later shuts down the best* offense in baseball while striking out 10. Why? He was tipping pitches, saw it on film and fixed it. Batters knew what pitch was coming during his windup ... they weren't correctly identifying the pitch midflight.
  10. Civale is a replacement level pitcher+ who was already on the IL once this year. Clement was a 3.5 WAR player last year and is on pace to beat that this year. The Brewers would have to add Boeve to the deal to get Clement and probably also send along some money to cover the difference in salaries :(
  11. My issue is dealing Patrick specifically for "Jerry Hairston". You will likely make our team worse if you traded Patrick for a league average SS right now. The WAR gained going from Ortiz to "Hairston" for the rest of the year(1 WAR added?) would be likely offset or worse by going from Patrick -> replacement in the rotation. So in all likelihood that move is net neutral overall to the team or best case scenario we add 1 win? 2 wins? So we bump from an 82 win team to an 84 win team and have to face the Padres in the wild card regardless? All the while losing half a decade of the top rookie pitcher this year in the NL.
  12. This is really funny. Hitting/pitching is so different today than during the Kennedy administration. "Read the seams". Paul Skenes would strike out 600 hitters if he pitched in the 70s.
  13. Would you trade Chad Patrick for the 2025 version of Jerry Hairston?
  14. You started this thread saying we need to flip a starter for a 3b "for the playoff run" which implies you want someone who will be better than that we have, i.e. a major league ready infielder. Who exactly do you think we would get for Chad Patrick that would propel us into the "contender" category and is worth giving up a guy who is currently a consensus top 3 rookie of the year candidate (who has been our best/2nd best pitcher and could be a staple in the rotation for the next half decade)? This doesn't make any practical sense. We are not a 3b away from beating any of the top 3 teams in the NL, even less so if we give away our most productive starter, respectfully.
  15. We aren't going to get much back for Civale I don't believe. Last year we gave up Barrios to get him and Civale had a year of control. I think his value has decreased since then. I don't think Barrios was a top 20 prospect for us at the time. Can't imagine we could get a major league player in return, much less one who has value.
  16. I don't think you do unless you get a great offer, but with the fickle nature of relievers and Megill's unconventional ascension into the closer's role, the Brewers were able to "create" a reliever with closer value out of thin air with him and as we watched with Payamps this year ... he could lose all of his value in 6 weeks time if things go south. Always a guessing game, as he could be a great reliever for a million more years ... but in my very uneducated opinion he feels like a guy who is at peak value right now ... and if the Brewers can get a top 100 guy for him ... gosh I'd have a hard time saying no.
  17. Seigler is super interesting. Former 1st Rd pick. Is there any other intel on why he is "fixed" or of it truly just a change of scenery situation? Having a switch hitting middle infielder to move around the batting order would tickle Murphy to no end..
  18. The radio guys were all over this one as well. Mentioned a few different times before the at-bat happened. It was an interesting move and then Machado hit it out.. I'm sure Murphy will have to answer for that one after the game if we lose.
  19. I'm not necessarily wanting to deal him obviously.. but I'm just pondering. Couple questions for you all who follow values closer than myself... What will his arbitration number look like after a full season as the closer? What would he bring back in terms of value at the trade deadline? Do we trust Ashby, Mis(?!), and Uribe to finish games if we were to deal him?
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