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I'm not a fan of making moves just to make moves although I understand from a GM/Owner standpoint you generally sell more tickets by placating to the casual fans when all else is equal. Not doing something says "we don't care and aren't trying" to many. Suarez seems great but the cost to acquire the guy who is #4 in the league in HR's is probably really steep. I'm definitely calling to inquire about him but I'm not desperate. Durbin has been a good player. My overall take on this year's deadline is two things: upgrade Mona if the cost is light. Whoever this year's Jerry Hairston equivalent is that can cover the infield for us and provide a deep fly ball with a guy on 3rd when needed. Secondly, barring injury in the short term to someone - trade one of Quintana/Cortes for some minor league pieces. Woodruff staying healthy is the key here.. assuming no contending team will want to trade from their big league roster to acquire pitching help - we are digging for prospects. I mentioned this in another thread but we have arms pushing up from AA and they need to progress too. Having 10 major league ready arms in AAA/MLB is an amazing 'problem' .. but two of them are expiring contracts and if we can help keep the entire organization healthy top to bottom ... then let's get it done.

Yes amongst all of the other reasons why Quintana and/or Cortes need to be traded ... Priester might be the biggest one. Other than Peralta he is the guy in the rotation the Brewers least want to move (at least up and down from Nashville).

This is going just about how we all thought it would...

Thanks Civale!

Very valid. It does seem for better or for worse we have pinpointed the type of outfielder we want and that is how we are moving forward. I do have a soft spot for Collins just based on his path and taking advantage of the opportunity ... so I may have been a triggered a bit with the convo. My apologies.

He's been really good. ERA under 3. In most other seasons he would have been brought back up already..

Whatever Vaughn does or doesn't provide while here will be added to Civale's season WAR with us...

It's a fun exercise to play scout and find the prospect fits. Looking at Quintana.. most teams could use a starter but I'm looking mainly at the top 4 in the AL East + Houston. I could be wrong here but I'm thinking we are looking towards the bottom half of a team's top 10 for a match or so if the return is a prospect. 7 of the Yankees top 10 prospects are arms. If I'm Milwaukee with Quintana I'm probably starting at Lalane and working up with any of the 4 arms they have in A ball currently. I like the righty Pecko in Houston. I also think Joseph Sullivan fits the Brewers mold of outfielders. Jackson Nezuh strikes out a lot of guys and seems to be raw. re: Boston.. their AA squad the SeaDogs have a couple of fun arms. Any of Sandlin, Early, or Tolle would be really cool to add. Would the Blue Jays kick us Johnny King as the ultimate lottery ticket? I kind of like Sean Keys, but I feel like we would be adding a 3b version of Blake Burke that needs to move to 1b soon enough as it is and they are parallel in their developmental stages right now. I would take Carson Messina randomly too. Easy 98mph out of high school. Harrison or Hill from the Rays. Easy peasy. I like the young SS they have in Santana too... again seems like a Brewers player, fast and easy defense. Of course none of this means anything ... I'm just a dufus watching Twitter clips. But it is fun to grind and play GM for a minute.

Vaughn has a chance..

This has been a fun game to watch. I'm not letting you negative yappers get to me today ;)

This is so fun to watch.

The nostalgia of watching Woodruff throw is making me miss Uecker a little bit more today...

It is quite something what we have on our hands in terms of starting pitching both quality and depth. I can't remember ever being close to this on our team... 1-5 Peralta, Miz, Priester, Quintana, Woodruff ... that's a good major league staff 6-10 Cortes (soon), Patrick, Henderson, Myers, Hall ... that's a green but intriguing major league staff 11+ Ashby, Gasser (?!), Carlos Rodriguez, etc As you prefaced I imagine there will be moves made in the next month to thin this group and add either to the big league team or fill some missing pieces in the system. Quintana is seemingly the obvious one, hopefully Cortes comes back firing and we get a worthwhile offer but from there it gets a little stickier. Peralta only if we get a whale package offer, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of Henderson/Myers/Patrick get moved in a deal for a big leaguer.

Welcome back old friend.

Vaughn is on the 40man already and do we want two LHB at 1st?

incoming..

Contreras *chefs kiss*

My gosh that's Andrew Vaughn's music!

You hate DL Hall haha

Barring injury somewhere... is this Patrick's last start with us until after the trade deadline? Woodruff is back and I'm assuming he will be given all the opportunities to belong again. Cortes is likely ready to return post AS break and will be back in the rotation... Peralta, Mis, Priester, Quintana, Woodruff, Cortes I would think we are/will be taking calls on Quintana shortly. I guess you could move Priester or Patrick to the pen and have a permanent piggy back with Mis to limit the innings.. but I'm not sure you want to mess with their rhythm like that?

You are comparing Isaac Collins to a guy who has received MVP votes in 8 of the last 10 seasons as your justification as to why he doesn't have enough power. I don't believe I'm the one that's being irrational, respectfully.

I think we will find out a thing or two today about Murphy's plan for Siegler when the lineups are announced. Since getting called up Siegler has gotten both starts against RHP. Durbin against the LHP yesterday. Murphy loves his R/L moves... So if Siegler hits his weight we might have ourselves a full blown platoon over at 3b.

Jose Ramirez didn't lose his entire first full season+ of professional baseball due to COVID. There is a whole draft class or two in '19-'20 range that you cannot use age as a fair comparison.

Your answer is incredibly mature. I remember after the Bucks won the NBA title I was driving home from my brother's house listening to post game local radio. Some guy called in and his comment was "they got lucky it worked but if they have any intention of repeating next year they need to fix their outside shooting.." and that was the ultimate realization for me of what you just said. For some fans it is a pursuit of perfection and nothing less is acceptable .. and because perfection isn't achievable it is simply a forever pursuit.

A few rebuttals... Collins only has 160+ at bats this year thus far. If you factor in a full season of at bats he would be a 15/16 home run guy given current production. If he improves even fractionally he arrives at that 20 number that was mentioned. None of Durbin/Frelick/Turang/Ortiz will be 25+ home run guys but they all have room to add muscle and are young. If they are all 8-12 guys now ... 12-18 isn't out of the question for any of them in the next few years and with the defense they all provide those are quality big leaguers.