OldSchoolSnapper

Lordy. King wants to be the stud he supposedly he is there is no way you can drop that marshmallow.

That was a 2018 drive.

I'll go optimistic and say the Packers take this one. Bears have a dud of a year, Packers look good tonight and get people a bit too excited, they level off at some point and win 9-10 games.

Brown is 31. This schtick won't last much longer because his raw skills will erode. He will be out of the league soon because he's a dope.

What size did you have to order, 5-times XL? The size ended up fine but it has the texture of a 10-year-old washcloth

Yelich could win 3 MVPs and if all these guys materialize to being decent players there will still be plenty of people saying we got robbed because Yelich will be washed up by then or then playing some place else and they won't care how good he was.

The last one I bought was a Chinese knock off of Tim Masthay

I personally don't get jerseys unless you're under the age of about 16 but I know they're wildly popular. I just go for generic team tees since most of the jerseys look silly within 3 years. At least with a rookie you usually know you get at least that much time. But they also could bust so I never really got it.

I didn't think that, I thought that's how I would come off. I'm in my early 30s, and as soon as I saw it and knew why people were "amped" about it, I thought, wow, that's dumb. Someone who could (has been) arrested or just irrelevant in a couple years. I don't think the NFL with all its image concerns was particularly enthralled with a guy giving a convicted felon free publicity. No matter what reason you think he wanted #21, that was the result. It's his first year in the league and he really has no ground to push back on it. But I really don't know a whole lot about the guy, it could've been a Jojo Siwa reference and I'd have thought it was just as stupid.

Old man warning: I'm glad he went back, regardless of him doing it or the Packers/NFL nudging him in that direction. I have nothing against rap music but I thought the whole schtick was incredibly stupid. Just as stupid as some guy named Swift wearing 89. Full disclosure that I had to Google what 21 Savage was. Please keep that crap off the field, I am fine with touchdown dances and whatever but this one felt unbelievably dumb.

Definitely not agent39, who scoffed at the mere suggestion of signing him to a 3-yr deal for $12 million. I believe he said he would be laughing at it.

I couldn't even handle Vicodin that was prescribed but everyone will react to this stuff completely different.

Thought the same thing, but the police were asking for that to happen by telling them.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he developed a pain med problem as a result of various injuries. Like anything else, you keep needing more intensity and higher doses as you keep going. It could've been the only way he felt he could pitch. Or he was partying. But without any information and knowing his vast injury history I would say both are about equally likely. And in either case, a team employee should be telling someone there's a problem rather than helping him get more. They should both be in jail if that happened, except he's dead. I don't buy into this mantra going around Twitter right now that it's sad but his fault and so the other person should walk. Asinine way of looking at it, and if that person exists they are culpable here.

He did have TJ done previously and spent a lot of time on the DL even after. It's not out of the realm of possibility he was dealing with a ton of physical pain all the time and started self medicating rather than just partying.

That's how I read it as well. If someone in the org illegally supplied him, I don't see an issue with them filing a civil suit. The courts will look at the facts. Their only other option would be to accept his decisions and move on with their lives, which would be an exceptionally courageous reaction that I wouldn't expect of most people.

If it turns out that something happened and drugs entered his body other than his own doing I'll apologize. 15 years around law enforcement will bet you that's not the case. Pretty sure that's not at all what he meant. More like, we have no clue how he got them. It could have been a doctor, he could have had access he shouldn't have had, he could've stolen them. It could have been a damn clubhouse attendant with a hook up. We have no idea.

Really? I'm pretty sure everyone knows that. There would also be consequences for illegally supplying drugs, so if this person did that, they should also face them. His family just lost their kid. He's dead, he's not coming back. I find their reaction pretty normal, and what would you have them do? "Well, Tyler made his choice. I hope the drug dealer moves on from this and becomes a stronger person." That drunk driving analogy is pretty terrible. I can go to Pick n Save and buy a handle of Vodka, chug it in the parking lot and go home. There's no crime there other than the one I committed. But if you struck and killed a pedestrian on your way home you'd probably be serving 10-15 years, just like that. There's certainly some blame to go around, but Skaggs did pay for poor choices. Obviously, I feel awful for his family regardless, and I'm sure this doesn't make it easier. I don't see that them saying it was out of character is blaming someone else for it. I'm sure it's devastating news for them. My point wasn't about not hitting a pedestrian. It's that the crime can be committed without anyone else breaking the law. That's probably not the case here, where you first need to find someone else doing something probably against the law. I'm not seeing anything really egregious about the family statement. It's basically Tyler made a mistake and we have an attorney for the potential civil suit, I'd guess? Everyone knows he was dumb to do what he did. It literally makes no difference in assigning blame to this other party. Nobody is making the argument that he didn't seek out the drugs or make a series of bad choices. It's nauseating to see that point brought up every time some celebrity overdoses. We all get it - you're really not being a hard ass or going against the grain. Drugs are bad and he shouldn't have been using them? Gee, whoa. He is dead so it is difficult to blame him in court.

I could do some lines tonight and overdose and it would still be out of character for me because I've never done it. Not seeing how that's "essentially placing blame on someone else."

Really? I'm pretty sure everyone knows that. There would also be consequences for illegally supplying drugs, so if this person did that, they should also face them. His family just lost their kid. He's dead, he's not coming back. I find their reaction pretty normal, and what would you have them do? "Well, Tyler made his choice. I hope the drug dealer moves on from this and becomes a stronger person." That drunk driving analogy is pretty terrible. I can go to Pick n Save and buy a handle of Vodka, chug it in the parking lot and go home. There's no crime there other than the one I committed.

No, there were a couple games in July I was very uncomfortable in the stands, I can't imagine what it was like right under the sun on the field.

I think Kizer will stay. He showed a pulse last night and it seems like Rodgers likes both of them which probably matters more than their performance. I think he's awful but I don't think he'll get cut anymore.

I bet no one would think that either, which makes it not very necessary to mention. Can we do one of these without the person that has to come in and remind everyone that he made a bad choice? Does anyone not know that? It wouldn't change the fact there is blame to go around. As far as the earlier topic of why this needs to be public: Now you know. Because it wouldn't be that much of a leap to find out someone or some people are supplying MLB players with these drugs illegally.

Hard to think of a worse move they've made recently than that one. Absolutely a yikes transaction.

I've never gotten a "they're not putting up a fight" vibe. They just do not have the horses.