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I'll just say Jihaad Campbell to the Packers.
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They're going to take an offensive linemen and the Internet's going to explode.
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Because he is happy. I just don't think he is the "demand a trade" type. It wouldn't shock me if he did, but I think he's like Dirk. He's said many things over the years that indicate as much as he wants to win, it's not the be-all, end-all. His upbringing and life story give him a different perspective than a lot of guys. If he is traded I think it's more likely initiated by the Bucks - they get a life-preserver of an offer that they know opens the door for the next generation of the team, which is currently slammed shut by mortgaged assets. That would require some foresight though and a major economic blow in the short term, so, maybe not likely either.
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I don't think Giannis is going anywhere.
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They've simply followed the lifecycle of the vast majority of recent NBA champs. An ascension, a title, and a descension that typically involves a handful of years middling in purgatory with old guys being paid too much, and a lack of assets because you sold them off to go for it. I am not upset about it, it's just what happens in the NBA. Does anyone here think Denver will win again? Toronto? Golden State bucked things because they had a ridiculous draft streak for a bit. Curry is the superstar, but Thompson and Green allowed for the dynasty. You can be frustrated we didn't get a second one, but realistically 2021 should have been the second one. It was the years before that where I would say they blew it, if they did blow it.
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This is going about exactly as expected. It's not even disappointing.
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The flipside of this nothingburger story is a world in which the Brewers make their personal best offer and he is today talking to the media about how "insulting" it was. I for one was very glad we did not keep him around. I didn't hate the guy or anything but I think his new contract is terrible. I just don't think he's that good. -
I'm not "concerned." I would be concerned if Chourio was doing this. Ortiz is a very bad hitter.
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It's painful to watch Ortiz hit.
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Yeah that wouldn't happen. Frelick is headed over there the second that catch looks like it might not happen. It's a triple at worst. Yaz is 34 years old. Likely a double.
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? Batter isn't going home on that...
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4-2 if Chourio is a millisecond slower.
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That was pretty neat
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Wouldn't it be Jordan Love? There is a lot of yikes in those 1st round picks, but I would put Love higher than Jaire given the circumstances and the cajones to make the pick. Savage and Stokes suck. Wyatt/Gary are certainly decent NFL players but probably perfect examples of guys whose value is exaggerated by the hometown fans. Jordan Morgan is who knows, LVN also still gets a bit of a pass but does not look good. Walker I am not quite ready to call a bust but this season would be the make or break. One thing is obvious though. These guys, even the ones who round out, are almost never contributing right away, which is a problem. You need way more than that out of 9 first round picks. The most important one was an at-least-decent QB which forgives a lot.
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The best player on both sides of the ball on the current team is a free agent. Bit of a problem when you think you're a draft and develop team. I don't buy they're the worst drafting team in the league because not every pick is created equally. If you draft your QBs correctly and they generally have, that is much more significant than getting a Pro Bowl LG and CB that play at that level for 3 years. I do think their drafting is much worse than most of the fans act though.
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I did not, actually, I said it was both games against the Vikings but I can see how that was confusing based on the sentence. Which it mostly was. It happens every week in the NFL where a defense goes soft in the second half to play the clock game. They got barnstormed in the first half of both games and never had a lead in either one. At no point were they in control of either game, the second one was just a bit worse than the first. In all of these examples, once the Packers closed the gap, the opponents immediately widened it again - another trend we saw a LOT of with last year's team. It's all splitting hairs to me anyway, who really cares if they had a lead in the 3rd quarter against DET or whatever, they could never close all year and they lost. It'd be one thing if we were stuck on one game, but they were 1-5 in their division and 2-5 against the playoff field. They beat a skeleton crew LAR and HOU. They had a lot of chances to pick up a signature win and failed over and over again. It was crystal clear they were good, not great. It was a clear trend with last year's team. They don't have a Clay Matthews/Reggie White/Charles Woodson on the team, on either side of the ball really. The closest thing was Josh Jacobs. And MLF was a chronic fart machine last year in those marquee games.
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Except the guy came out at EOY and said it was time to compete for championships, which implies they aren't doing that or haven't done it. The follow-up to that was Hobbs and an interior lineman swap. I think we are taking a leap to say the team is better right now than it was last offseason. I'm sure the Packers will be "fine." Fine is what they have mastered. Likely a playoff team, though even that seems up in the air in their division/conference, but not one of the very top teams.
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Sounds about right. 10-7 with a loss in the 1st or 2nd round. I am not sure how the Bengals got in there with that defense.
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The way the Packers do things makes sense the majority of the time. When you are right on the cusp of a championship, to me that is when you fill those last big holes with FA and go for it. They don't do that though. Also, this just isn't accurate. Ted actually did it, going for Peppers, who for all intents and purposes WAS that piece and should have gotten the '14 team over the hump. I am not seeing where the confusion is though. What has Gute done this offseason that even counts as what you're suggesting? Nate Hobbs or the OG? Who both are presumably filling role for outgoing players. Hobbs is an upgrade I guess because Alexander doesn't even play, but he certainly isn't better.
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First Vikings game the Packers were within 6 points with 10 minutes left: And down 28-7 at half. And lost. Did you see that game? Because they were getting curb-stomped the entire first 35 minutes. Now post the other game against the Lions in which they trail 24-6 in the 4th, and the other game against the Vikings in which they are down 27-10 with 6 minutes left. Oh but wait, they lost that game by 2 so it must have been super close. If you're going to do this, post all the games.
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I would have made the deal PIT did for Metcalfe. Once we didn't get him the cool thing to do was talk about how he wasn't worth it, but one problem is that people are constantly using old figures to find market value. Everybody knows damn well that if we had swung that deal everybody would have loved it. He is an animal, a physical freak, would be happy to block and he is just the kind of raw talent they don't have. He would alleviate everything for the rest of the WR group. He is just your star playmaker that they don't have. I don't think he's ever been in as good of a situation as he would have had in GB either. Maybe there is a smidge of overpay, maybe he doesn't produce. But we are trying to compete for a Super Bowl here. There is risk involved if you want to hit a home run. If you couldn't get him, Godwin would have been a substantial upgrade. I don't buy they didn't have options. They chose to mitigate risk. Maybe they'll be right, who knows. On the pass rush side I am more inclined to agree. I am not big on Mack at this point. If they could have actually pursued Garrett, I'd have done that over Metcalfe, but who knows. I don't think they ever really chased down any of the big tickets, which is disappointing given where they are in the pecking order.
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My garbage time comment was more so referring to the Lions and more so the Vikings, when the Packers got obliterated twice and cobbled together some crap way too late to make the final score look close. I'll stand by what I said though - the Packers were never a threat in that playoff game. They didn't once have the ball with a chance to take the lead outside of the opening possession which they didn't even get because they dropped the kickoff. Philly controlled the pace completely and extended the lead to two scores every time they had to. The Packers did NOTHING offensively until that Jacobs TD. We don't need to dive deep to how awful Love was either. And last I checked, the 4th quarter counts just as much as the first three quarters. It really doesn't. You can find 5 games a week where there's a "comeback" at the end of the game because defenses start conceding chunk plays to let the clock run. But completing the comeback almost always requires an onside kick or a string of luck that basically never happens.
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You can rationalize that 2/3 of the league is "close." It's all relative. The Packers did not compete with anyone in the NFC playoff field. They got run out of the building, threw together some scores in garbage time to keep the final score looking more flattering than it was. They were not losing those games 40-6, sure, but anyone saying they were ever really in that playoff game is wearing green and gold goggles. Minnesota and Detroit controlled them completely, twice. I am not sure how anyone classifies them as a Top 5 team last season. They were not even the Top 5 in the NFC at year's end. Even if you look at several games the Packers won, they squeaked by some crappy teams. That's not even a criticism, just the reality that mediocre isn't that far off from good. I'd say the Packers were in the top 10 and literally 10th, behind KC, PHI, DET, MN, LAR, WAS, KC, BUF, BAL...and outside of that if you want to include LAC/DEN/PIT...I don't think those three were better, but I do think a healthy TB team was. It would take some wild mental gymnastics to say GB was top 5 ahead of any of KC/BUF/MN/DET/PHI.
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They could finish 1st or 4th and neither would surprise me and I feel that way about the whole division. DET - Has to be the preseason favorite but you just never know and it is just hard to keep staying on top year after year. You would think some regression is coming or just Goff having a bad year or something. They were definitely the squad last year before getting decimated by injuries and you never know who comes back from that and to what level. MIN - It seems likely they dip without stable QB play, but it's a talented team. If I had to pick somebody to finish last, it's them, but McCarthy's play could change that quickly. GB - They don't look a lot better on paper so you are hoping for in-house development. They seem too good to really tank, but just don't strike me as a real contender, there is just a lack of playmakers on both sides of the ball. CHI - They have to actually show it, but this is the first time in a long time I've felt like they're doing things right. Williams is going to be a good player. I didn't think the Bears were a terrible team last year despite that hideous losing streak. They were a competitive team and just needed a year to gel. They have made major upgrades and have talent at the skill positions. 1st might be a stretch but I think they're going to be a pain.
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So in summary, the Browns are the standard to which the Packers can be compared. As long as we are outperforming the Browns, it's fine if we keep taking talented rosters with franchise QBs to the 2nd round of the playoffs at best. If you aren't just happy to be better than the Browns, that's "negativity." Not a single example of "negativity" in the last post makes a lick of sense as being negative, nor does it constitute "debating ideas."
