Is this the same stat that said JJ was worth 20 million last year? Rather than use one of fifty peculiar stat formulas, tell me the starting pitcher you'd like to get for Hardy, and I'll tell you about his warts. Or, if you don't want to trade Hardy for a starter, tell me the two guys you plan to bring in to help the rotation, and I'll tell you about THEIR warts. You want to shoot down Guthrie. I'm telling you he is as good as we can get on many levels. If you disagree, tell me about the two starters you'd get.