Nate - you can read comments as well as me. Before this past season, Vazquez was perceived as being a guy in the mold of a Bill Hall and Jeff Suppan value wise. Slightly better, but by and large he had close to neutral value, regardless of how his "stuff" might be better than the lefties I mention. The funny thing to me is knowing how much differently you'd be talking about Washburn had he pitched for Detroit how he was pitching for Seattle. You'd probably be calling for him as a 2/3 as opposed to a 5. The point, again, is that a lot can change in a year, that we're going to have to gamble somewhat, and there is certainly a similar chance that Washburn can fill the #2 spot in the rotation just like Vazquez came out of nowhere to be able to fill it for the Braves this past season (even if he regresses his final year of his contract).