jerichoholicninja

Is there a Sky Sox or Colorado Springs sports Hall of Fame? And how can we get Tim Dillard inducted?

Is that 3 radio guys in 3 years gone?

I don't think Braun has been reported anywhere, just something someone here threw out. But if you get the Dodgers involved, who's to say Braun doesn't go there? Stearns could get really crazy and take on Ellsbury and Kemp, send Braun to LA, and get some top prospects from both teams.

If they trade one of our real OFers for a 2B then yes, disappointed would be the correct emotion. Not knowing the players involved that could be a great trade or a horrible trade. I see this all falling apart and nothing happens.

I hope everyone is prepared for disappointment because we are the Brewers and we never fail to disappoint.

In 2014 Wang made 4 appearances in April, 4 in May, 3 in June, 2 in July, and 1 in September. I think he went on the DL once he reached his required time to be on the 25 man so that explains his lack of use in July-September but before that he was pitching once a week, if that. I get that he sucked, I wont deny that. But the fact that Ron flat out refused to pitch him in any game that wasn't a blow out (13/14 appearances were Brewers losses and only 4 of those were losses by 4 or less) did not help Wang or the bullpen. I would find it hard to believe the front office was fully supportive of his use. He needed to be used more often just to give the rest of the bullpen a break. If Melvin thought he sucked he wouldn't have kept him on the roster all year. All the "bum" talk is just stupid. It's not Wang's fault he was a Rule 5 pick or was on the 40 man the last few years with hardly any MLB time. The move back to Korea has to be 100% Wang's personal choice to go back home because his minor league numbers show a guy who should be on someone's 40 man roster, if not an MLB bullpen piece for a rebuilding team. A 2.73 ERA and 1.2 WHIP in Colorado Springs over 2 years in nothing to just brush off, especially when you look at his .189 AVG and .490 OPS against on the road last year.

It is "smarter." I don't dispute that. It's also, however, a recipe for a work stoppage. I understand the wisdom of what Pittsburgh is doing, but the "Moneyball" idea of exploiting market inefficiencies is also becoming a way to justify not paying for production. If you're a really good player in the MLB, there's a strong chance you'll never get a big contract. Seriously. Teams will pay the arb salaries year-by-year, and then you'll hit 31 and they'll say, "You're past your prime." It's a shell game. Don't get me wrong. I don't feel too bad for a guy who makes 20 million in a six year baseball career. But when the owners are running up numbers in the hundreds of millions, even billions, well, it's all relative, isn't it? If I were a young MLB player, I'd be pissed. If I were Jimmy Nelson, I'd be scared. Eventually, the union will get tired of the benefits of the system going to the Stantons and Harpers and Kershaws, and then the owners will have to significantly change the system or face the possibility of a work stoppage. Players are held accountable for results and constantly evaluated. All I'm suggesting is that we see more information on how the owners are managing their obligations, and not just to "efficient spending" either. IMHO, paying guys what they are worth to the extent possible is part of that, in the same way taking care of the environment and giving miners fair benefits is part of a coal company's job. It's not the only thing, or even the biggest thing (certainly we'll all disagree about to what extent it matters--I personally think the social responsibility piece should be much more emphasized across society, but that's just me), but I think it has to be part of the conversation. Just talking about owners as "smart" misses the fact that sometimes they're also being "exploitative," at least relative to baseball, and I think that means we need to have the conversation about what the owners obligations are, understanding that Milwaukee and Pittsburgh are going to have different ones than LA and SF and NY and Chicago. I don't agree with a lot of that, especially because I really don't care how much the owners make, but I agree with the general point. GM's are only looking to sign a player if it's below market value, which is not a bad strategy, but I'm pretty disappointed if Stearns passed on all those short term, (relative to what every other player gets paid) inexpensive relievers because they weren't under market value. I've said it many times, you don't get extra credit for signing only cheap, undervalued players. Last year, having even one half way competent reliever from day 1 gets us to at least the wild card game.

As I posted in the Wang thread, I'm pretty sure players can't just be traded between leagues. They would have to be posted. I'm also pretty sure a player can't be posted until they've played so many years in the NPBL and it looks like Yoshida has only played 2 which I'm guessing isn't enough.

I went to Seattle in 2016, when the Brewers played out there. An amazing town to visit for a week (or weekend). Don't think I'd want to live there unless I was making a ton of money though. Expensive and crowded. Went to Seattle a few years ago. Really nice place. Aside from it being the only time if my life someone has ever offered to sell me drugs.

I would assume KBO and NPBL teams can't just trade their players to MLB teams. Those players would have to be posted or be full out MLB free agents if their contact expired.

Who is crying poverty? Unless you're one of the teams in LA, Chicago, or NYC it makes no sense to dole out huge free agent contracts. Or really even huge contracts to resign your own guys. Barring a few exceptions, players have pretty much hit their peak and may even be declining by the time they reach free agency. It's just stupid to pay a 32 year old declining player 3-4 times as a 26 year old for the same or slightly better production. Especially when the younger player will probably get better while the older one is only going to get worse. In the case of Pittsburgh, it's way smarter to trade guys like Cole and McCutchen for prospects when you're not going to compete. Throwing money at either of those guys just to placate your fans is going to set the organization back and fail in the long run.

Money talks and the Brewers system should be top 10 for a few years.

I think we're getting to the point where positional flexibility is getting vastly overrated for our current team. Shaw and Arcia are starting everyday. Thames and Aguilar have 1B. Santana is starting everyday and Braun almost everyday. CF is going to be some combination of Broxton, Phillips, and Brinson. 2B is the only unclaimed position right now. I love guys that can play multiple spots but 6 of the 7 non-C/P positions are pretty well spoken for everyday. A bench full of light hitting multi-position guys just doesn't seem all that productive.

Moving operations from Milwaukee to Maryvale in a few weeks is quite a "substantial move". Seriously, never put any stock in anything a GM says.

I can't imagine there's enough disposable income in the area to support a team. I would guess Wisconsin's hockey supporters live in the northern and western parts of the state. And those people probably aren't going to drive 2 to 4 hours in the middle of winter for a hockey game.

I have never once heard the Patriots have stupid excuses for losses.

Kind of surprised by Hiura but I guess they usually do that with their top pick from the previous year.

Blame falls on Roenicke who refused to pitch him in any situation unless the game was a total blowout and took away a year of development from him. There's no reason he shouldn't have been used as a semi-LOOGY. And honestly, we still have no idea what he is. He threw more than 5 pitches and faced multiple batters in 1 appearance last year. That's like giving a batter 10 sporadic PA over a month and trying to make any judgement about him. You can't.

The more I look into Yelich the more I really want him. Realmuto's good but I just think paying for catchers is a waste. Even the best catchers are still average hitters compared to everyone else. Replacing Pina/Vogt with Reamuto just doesn't improve that lineup that much for what it will take to get him. If Walker isn't going to be resigned, a Yelich and Castro deal just seems like too much sense for both teams.

You really think teams are tanking for draft picks? I don't think that happens in MLB. Teams simply cut payroll to the minimum because they realize the difference between 60 and 70 wins is nothing. Well the term tanking is stupid and generally used by the uneducated baseball fan which is why I always put it in quotes. Losing teams aren't cutting payroll, they're trading guys that won't help the team in the next few years for players that will. The fact that that reduces the payroll and makes the MLB team worse and therefore gets a higher draft pick are added bonuses. In fact, I think you'll find rebuilding teams are actually adding payroll just as often as they are cutting payroll by taking on bad contracts along with a good prospect from teams that are trying to win and need the payroll space to get players to win now. The rebuilding Braves traded for and are paying Adrian Gonzalez and Matt Kemp gobs of money to not even play them in exchange for prospects. I only brought up "tanking" because way back in the thread someone said it was a problem that needs to be fixed. Quite frankly, no, it doesn't. But if the powers that be determine that it does need to be fixed an equal draft lottery would be the way to do it.

"Tanking" hasn't been brought up in awhile but if you want to get rid of tanking you need a draft lottery. A real lottery, not the NBA version. Every team that doesn't make the playoffs has an equal shot at getting the #1 pick. After a couple years of top picks not going to the worst teams the scorched earth rebuild won't be quite as common. Teams in totally dire straights will still probably do it but the middle-ish teams will make more of an effort to win since there would be zero benefit to losing. I think a lottery would be a terrible idea but it would please the "anti-tanking" crowd.

In general, this. Choi has no impact on anything as it relates to the MLB roster. If Choi plays in Milwaukee then Thames and Aguilar are both hurt, Braun can't play 1B and Stearns can't find a better option via a trade. Or Choi is hitting .400 with 25 HRs by July in Colorado Springs, and they are looking to catch lightning in a bottle. That theory has been disproven by pretty much every hitter we've brought up since going to Colorado Springs.

Completely agree with all of this. Ya, that makes no sense to me to be angry at the owners. And how much does an owner personally profit anyway? Mark isn't the only guy making money off the Brewers. After whatever profit there is is split between everybody that gets something I think we would be surprised at how little Mark actually takes home. Oh, I'm sure it's a lot compared to 99% of the population but rather small compared to what we all think. And if the owners aren't keeping the money, the players will. Don't we complain enough about how much these guys make? Look forward to utility infielders getting $20M a year.

Weren't there some rumors floating around that Jungmann kind of "did his own thing" and reverted back to his old form/mechanics, against what he was being told to do by the organization? I think that would very well make the org not reward him for that by calling him up. I thought he went back to his old mechanics but I didn't think it was a rouge move. That said, if he did it on his own and the organization held it against him by not calling him up that concerns me. He was rocked in MLB and AAA in 2016 and then went back to what worked for him and dominated (by Colorado Springs standards) AAA. You don't punish a guy for that.

I don't remember where I found it but they have front office/management job postings to apply for somewhere. It may have been on MLB.com.