Well...to hear it from an Ump, you'd have to hear an Ump admit that he's wrong several times a game and he was tricked by how the ball was caught. So I don't think you'll hear it from an Ump. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. Coached, I did little league when I was a kid, but no real ump experience. So I think you're gonna be disappointed in your goal to find a real qualified high level ump to talk about it. Incidentally, I saw the rankings about a month ago of the catchers who got the most balls called strikes this year. Out of all qualified catchers and there were 93 of them at the time, #93....Jonathan Lucroy. I wonder if that has to do with him getting so much talk about what a great pitch framer he is(I did go back to look at the previous 5-6 years and he was inside the top 6-10 the last few years, had a multi year run at #1 and this matched his reputation) that it started to work against him. Or if like everything else, his game had just fallen off in that area too(this was before or right around his trade to the Rockies. Ya, I really doubt any ump is going to admit they get fooled by catchers trying to frame but I have heard them talk about catchers who try to frame but they don't give the call so some are at least aware that they can be influenced by it. Lucroy is an interesting case as he was the poster boy for framing when it first became a "thing" but now he's one of the worst in baseball. Meaning framing is just noise and is not a skill or like you said, umps have caught on and are changing how they call when he catches.