Oxy, while the whining gets annoying, it can also be very amusing. We all whine about different things. For me, I'm finding the MLB club much more fun to follow than the minors since we have few off to good starts down there. I'm also confident that the next time we lose 3 in a row while playing poorly, The 'stache will start a similar thread trying to diagnose our problems while Adam will start several threads demanding Doug Melvin blow up the team because 1)Braun, Gallardo, Weeks, etc will never have higher value and 2) 2016 is much more important than 2013. TheCrew07 will likely speak about Melvin's ineffectiveness as GM, MA's meddling, overall team short-sightedness, and Taylor Jungmann's prospect floor (rather than ceiling). As for myself, I'll continue to preach patience, show trust in Mark Rogers and our other young pitchers, question whether Scooter or Hunter will ever contribute much in MLB, and have faith that our team will win 85-89 games as currently constructed, while also defending Melvin since's the GM that guided us to the playoffs twice (matching the previous GMs in my 32 years). Occasionally I'll get irritated on the message board, but that's typical over the last few years