GoMocs, I haven't seen them pitch. I may have seen Jones years ago (like 6 years ago), but I can't remember. I made my statement based on how many organizations view pitchers having success in AA as being close to MLB ready, especially for bullpen guys who only have to come in showing 1 or 2 pitches and are on the attack. So to me, by Braddock and Wooten thriving in AA, Axford thriving in AAA, and Jones holding his own (take out the 2 outings before the stomach issue), I view them as viable relievers. I am no fan of Seth McClung. He had a few good starts last year and one outstanding relief outing, but he's not a good pitcher. Villanueva may be better as a starter because then he can work off his offspeed pitches better. Hoffman may be here one year. Riske is a sunk cost. Smith isn't a great option. I'd rather give these guys a chance than go out and sign more David Riske's. Tayor, Bando, and Melvin were great at assembling cheap pens until recently. Our bullpens haven't been good in a few years. But we used to cheaply acquire guys like Fetters, DeJean, Leskanic, Fox, Jones, Wickman, Lloyd, Shouse, Coffey, etc. As someone said in another thread, we haven't hit on many of those guys lately (just Coffey). I'd rather try to piece together a pen with these AA/AAA pitchers with velocity (or command, with Wooten). They're cheap and replaceable, whereas Riske is only the latter