Thurston Fluff
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I think it's more a sign they were never desperate enough to give up what was necessary to get Burnes.
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That would be a significant deal if it was 2019.
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MLB 2023/2024 Free Agency Thread
Thurston Fluff replied to wiguy94's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
If every team did the fiscally responsible thing the players would make far less of the total revenue. They'd never stand for that. The alternative would be to share all revenue and have all the teams play on an even field. That probably would reduce innovation. Would the Brewers have their pitching lab if they could afford Aces in free agency for example? As long as the big markets pay the big salaries and get the same number of championships as the smaller markets the end results are the same while the sport advances with new innovations. For myself, I couldn't comprehend cheering for a team that doesn't need to be well run to win. Every championship the 90's Yankees won came with the caveat of how much they spent. When those super teams don't win it all every season the fans can't enjoy how good the team is. If we win one it's just so much sweeter than ones the big spenders can enjoy. -
Offensively he's produced less each season. The year he played the most he produced less than the previous years. That doesn't seem like a guy who's suddenly going to improve when past his prime physically. He'll have value as a defender and on the bases. But given he got on base less each season, that value is somewhat mitigated. He's a good part time player because he adds value on defense and isn't a black hole on offense...yet. I just don't see a guy who's on base percentage peaked at .321, and went down every season since, suddenly turning it around after age 30.
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We essentially traded 2024 depth for future depth so it's a wash there. I respected Taylor in that he managed to become a serviceable major league player despite not having a great minor league career. He made the most of his talent but I don't see him as someone who ages well. Hauser is more of a loss for 20204 IMHO. I liked the idea of stockpiling guys who can pitch multiple innings in relief or pitch 4-5 innings as a starter. As others have said, depth like is important. That said, we can still do that for less money. I think we can get guys like Hauser on minor league contracts with invites to camp and still retain the roster spots for bigger acquisitions. As for the return from what I've read his stuff outside his fastball seems capable of getting major league hitters out. Being able to put his less that stellar fastball where he wants to set up his other stuff is going to be key. It appears he has the ability to do that so there is legit hope he can be a major league starter down the road.
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This is the best Christmas surprise I've had since I had to put my dog down a week before Christmas. Seriously though, when you have one of the best catchers in the game how much time is the backup going to get? It would take a couple months to find out if he's a total waste which would give Quero some time in AAA and save some service time. Even if Quero isn't ready on offense he's one of the best defensive catchers in the minors. That should be enough to help the team in a backup role in the second half. If Quero can hit then Contreras can DH more.
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You're absolutely correct. They chose financial solvency and the ability to keep their franchise over winning. I mean every small market could spend like the Dodgers for the chance to one World Series every 32 years. Granted there would be seven different owners over that period of time but you know. Priorities.
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That's my point. MLB is more local than national. Ohtani will get a large share of the non-local sales but that isn't a major portion of total sales. While Ohtani will a larger share of the local sales the major portion of those will come at the expense of other players not extra local sales created by him. Taking sales away from Freeman and Betts doesn't improve the dodgers bottom line. The one area he will help is international sales. How large that is I don't know but it will be fairly large. Large enough to make up the cost is another question.
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Do they really make so much more off him though? Do dodger fans buy an Ohtani jersey plus another Dodger player jersey or do they just buy Ohtani's? There will no doubt be significant sales of people who follow him alone. But he'd have to reach a Michael Jordan level of personal following to make that contract worth it. I don't think any baseball player does that. He may sell by far the most merch and the way it's counted would make it appear like Ohtani was the one who brought that revenue in but if that person would have bought one anyway it wasn't generated by him. Had he gone to a team that doesn't sell out every game or has a tv contract coming up soon he'd have a larger personal impact. Given the Dodgers sell out their stadium anyway it doesn't really drive more attendance to games and their TV contract is set in stone until something like 2039 or so. For him to make that much extra he'd have to sell an awful lot of merchandise to people who wouldn't have bought anything other than his. I just don't see how even he makes enough people who don't normally buy merchandise suddenly shell out premium dollars for a t-shirt and cap to justify the contract.
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This is the least surprising thing I've seen in a long time. Both who signed him and what was paid.
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From everything I've read he got his buyout.
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Why move a failed starter who found success in the bullpen back to where he failed? It looks to me like they want to have more than one multiple inning reliever and he's one of them. Honestly I think having Wilson, Ross and Rea all in the pen means they can fill out the starting rotation with five inning types. Our rotation looks to have at least three who are either coming off injury, a rookie and Miley who is old and not very durable. It'd make sense to have a lot of long/swing men this season. If one steps up as a legitimate starter, all the better. I just doubt they're planning on relying on any of the three to lock down a rotation spot.
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Not quite. He got the buyout this season by declining the option and has another buyout next season. Had he taken the deal he'd have made $10 million. By turning it down and signing a new contract he makes his base salary of $8.5 + $1 buyout plus the $1.5 buyout for 2024. So he essentially made half a million more in guaranteed money plus a possible $2.5 more if he reaches his incentives.
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I don't believe he can be sent down without going through waivers. Also not sure if he has to accept a demotion or if he can opt for free agency. Either way I doubt they signed him to with the idea he can send time in AAA.
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If there was a way to know which area was going to need depth then it would make sense. But we don't know where the injury, or under performance bug is going to rear it's ugly head. If we were in a situation where there was a major shortage in one area and a major surplus in the other I'd get it. But that isn't the case. Our pitching depth is nearly as good as last season and there's more ways to shore it up than trading controllable young talent with options away. What we will be lacking next season is elite starting pitching but I don't think we can get that via trade. As a general rule, I don't think you get better overall depth by trading away depth.
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None. They all have options and depth is important. It isn't like all of them have accomplished everything they could in AAA.
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It's the extra 2 years of control in his prime at $10 million that make this an easy decision. Add in two more team options at a higher rate and this a no brainer. We're getting a potential superstar signed to a deal a throughout his prime that league average players get in free agency. His floor is probably close to league average. He gets to hit free agency at 30 which gives him time to cash in once more. Win, win.
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Seems to me the most risk is up front. He'd have to be below average not to be worth $10 million a year. The chances of that happening looks to be early in his career as opposed to later on. We've got a lot of prearby players keeping the payroll down so we can absorb the contract early on and reap the rewards later when he hits his prime. The risk is if he only ever becomes Jason Heyward and he's only ever worth $10 million a year.
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MLB 2023/2024 Free Agency Thread
Thurston Fluff replied to wiguy94's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Maybe their plan is to only allow grounders to third. -
Dating apps are pure crap. I registered on five different apps and not a single one knew what year my dining set was made.
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Update: Brandon Woodruff is non-tendered.
Thurston Fluff replied to Jake McKibbin's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
It's likely they will spend more but that might be just to maintain their current level than to improve. Cody Bellinger is going to cost them more than $12.5 million and Stroman chose free agency because he wanted to make more than he would have if he stayed. So they either pay more to keep both or pay more for someone else his caliber. To get better would be added costs on top of what it would cost to remain the same. Which is why free agency isn't the panacea to improving a team it's made out to be. -
I think a lot of people are looking at 2024 as a mini rebuild. Rebuilds tend to be with cheap players because there's little reason to pay when there's little hope of being competitive. I get why some think we're going to rebuild but I don't agree. It'd be hard to ask for and receive half a billion of public funds only to turn around and cut payroll. There's enough talent in the pipeline to keep this thing going if we supplement the roster of youngsters with a veteran or two.
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MLB 2023/2024 Free Agency Thread
Thurston Fluff replied to wiguy94's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
If last postseason didn't dispel your notion of what constitutes a championship roster I don't know what to say. -
Or they waited until the last minute for some other reason. The fact remains nobody was willing to give up anything for him and we were forced to let him go for nothing. That's a pretty good indication nobody was willing to trade anything for him.
