Hmm. Based on what they were asking over the winter I just don't think this is going to be enough for Chicago for Quintana alone much less for him and Robertson. There's a lot of good depth but only one top 100 guy in Ray and he's there more based on draft position than production. But it's hard to say, depends on who they value the most. There seems to be at least as much quality here as what we gave up for Greinke, but I don't see then packaging both pitchers for this either way. I'd rather do this than mine if it means keeping Diaz, even though I really like Dubon too. Yeah, you're probably right that it would take more. I just don't know how much more I would be willing. I guess if it meant we were getting both of those guys, you may up it a touch but I wouldn't go crazy. I guess that's what everyone is discussing that make a huge trade could really offset the rebuilding phase. In my trade above, while those guys could become MLB players and good ones, I like other guys more than them so I fed them to the wolves.