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  1. The moment of truth. As the OP said, the first game in a 3 game series is always crucial, and this one always seemed bigger than usual because of Burnes being matched up against someone other than Gallen or Kelly. Woodruff being out makes it even more pivotal. The question all season has been whether the Brewers offense (even the post deadline version) could produce the runs needed to win games against top teams and their best pitchers. We’ll start to get the answer to that tonight. All of the Brewers pitchers will have to be sharp because, as we saw during the season, the DBacks will run at every opportunity. They can turn any careless walk into a runner in scoring position.
  2. We’ll just have to agree to disagree that a CONCLUSION based on certain facts is not the same as an ASSUMPTION of any facts. I am taking the FACTS of what Counsell and Woodruff said and how they said it and drawing the CONCLUSION that Woodruff will not be pitching this postseason. If that conclusion proves to be wrong I will own it. The other relevant FACT is that Woodruff had the same issue in April and it took 4 months for him to return to the mound But, the poster who I originally responded to was speculating that Woodruff might have received a medical opinion that he might be able to return this postseason. I think that’s highly unlikely. I am not confused as to why someone might quibble with my comments when they have established a history of doing it.
  3. So, you basically agree with me but want to quibble. When I heard Woodruff tearfully say that maybe this was a blessing because he could get his issue taken care of, I thought it was obvious that he had gotten some pretty bad news from a doctor and the only question is how long he will be unable to pitch. And I also think it was obvious from his reaction that he knows his return to pitching isn’t going to be next week or next month. If you want to call my conclusion an “assumption”, I really don’t care. But I don’t see how you can reach any other conclusion from it.
  4. As I said earlier the facts are the words used and demeanor shown by both Counsell and Woodruff in their comments to the press. I haven’t seen anyone who saw those say they simply expressing disappointment that Woodruff is going to miss a start or two. Have you seen them?
  5. Maybe semantics, but I think there is a difference between an assumption of facts and a conclusion drawn from known facts. i think anyone who saw the videos of both Counsell announcing Woodruff’s injury and Woodruff breaking down while expressing his feelings about not being able to be part of the team would conclude that he knows he is out for the postseason. If he thought there was any chance that he would be able to contribute I think he would be focusing on that.
  6. I’m not making any assumptions. I am reading what has played out right in front of our eyes. My conclusion is that the chances of seeing Woodruff pitch this postseason are the same as seeing comebacks by Ben Sheets or Teddy Higuera.
  7. If you saw the video of Woodruff and how he broke down talking about the injury, he is definitely out for the entire postseason. They just aren’t going to declare that today because there’s no reason to. When they talk about second opinions it seems like it’s only a matter of having surgery or trying to do what he did during the season that involved 4 months of rehab.
  8. The Woodruff news elinimates the advantage the Brewers thought they had, but I’ll still take them to win in 3. Just add Carlos Gomez and Nyjer Morgan to the playoff roster. The chances of the Brewers beating the Dodgers if they do advance just went from slim to slimmer. In the other series: Phillies over Marlins in 2. Rays over Rangers in 3 Jays over Twins in 3.
  9. The Woodruff news elinimates the advantage the Brewers thought they had, but I’ll still take them to win in 3. Just add Carlos Gomez and Nyjer Morgan to the playoff roster. The chances of the Brewers beating the Dodgers if they do advance just went from slim to slimmer. In the other series: Phillies over Marlins in 2. Rays over Rangers in 3 Jays over Twins in 3.
  10. Might have to add two pitchers to the roster to make up for that.
  11. I will be upset if Taylor is not in the starting lineup for at least game 1. Playing Frelick or Mitchell ahead of him seems to be giving the lefty-righty factor more weight than who has been producing over the last two months. Without looking it up, Taylor has been one of the team’s best hitters since August 1, and maybe the very best. I don’t think there’s much question that the first 6 hitters will be Yelich, Contreras, Santana, Canha, Adames, and Donaldson, and I don’t think it makes match difference if Yelich or Canha is in LF with the other is DH. But I would be putting Taylor in RF, probably batting 8th just to split the lefties a little. I would prefer Michell in CF over Frelick because I think he’s better defensively and Frelick has been in a pretty big slump at the plate. Turang at2B and batting 9th against a RH starter makes sense if only for defense.
  12. That’s really the point. Just looking at number of playoff appearances doesn’t tell the whole story.
  13. I think you also have to take into account that the competition in the AL East in those days was extremely fierce. I think just looking at winning percentages doesn’t capture the quality of the teams.
  14. They were talking about the Brewers 13 run inning in 1990 but I didn’t hear them mention the whole story on the broadcast. And if someone brought it up on this thread I missed it. I was listening to that game in the radio in 1990, and the Brewers fell behind the Angels 7-0 early in the game. But they rallied to tie the score at 7-7 and then had the 13 run inning to open up a 20-7 lead. Clearly the biggest turnaround in team history.
  15. We always get into this, but I’m still sticking with the 1978-1992 Brewers, especially 1978-83. The AL in those days had 14 teams in 2 seven team divisions and only the 2 division winners made the postseason. If they had taken the division winners and 3 wild card teams like they do now, I think they would have made the playoffs every year from 1978-83 and 3 more times from 87-92. I can see why younger people would think these are the best Brewers teams ever, but anyone who was around then seeing 2 Hall of Famers in their prime with contributions from a couple of other HOFers knew those were outstanding teams.
  16. Best thing of the night is seeing Yelich hit the ball with authority. Last Friday he was swinging like he was 50 years old.
  17. It was a catch because he controlled it before going out of play. Santana did the same thing and the out was called. But because he carried the ball out of play the runners got a base. On this play the catch was the third out and I don’t think there was anyone on base anyway.
  18. Frelick is going to hurt himself or someone else one of these days. That’s at least the third collision he’s been a part of.
  19. Obviously it’s extremely unlikely, but how crazy would it be if the Padres won out and grabbed a wild card spot? They’re now only one game behind the Giants. They could get to 84-78 and they would need the Cubs and Marlins to go no better than 4-5 and the Reds to go no better than 5-4.
  20. I wouldn’t be so sure that the Brewers won’t be using any of their top starters at all in the final series even if the division race is decided. Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta are slated to pitch this weekend, so if they stayed on the 6 day rotation they would be pitching again next Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Pitchers usually don’t like to go too long in between appearances, so the Brewers might want them to start on schedule, even if it’s only to go 3-4 innings. That would set them up to pitch with 4 days rest on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
  21. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Lahoud Joe Lahoud
  22. And if the Brewers would advance to the NLDS, their potential home games (games 3 and 4) would be on weekdays too.
  23. A nice, quick no drama victory is always welcome.
  24. This is going to be the first time in franchise history that the Brewers will put playoff tickets on sale and I won’t be buying any. We’ll just be getting back from our trip and my daughters really can’t conveniently go to weekday or weeknight games, The NLDS tickets will go on sale while I’m gone.
  25. Looks like they’ll just let Teheran try to finish it.
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