Look at PFF (iShares Preferred Stock and Income Securities ETF). The yield is 4.68%. That one was on my list that I was considering, thanks. Often times individual preferred shares are much higher than that yield, and the only way they trade under par is if there is a crash or serious company stress. PMT/A one I have. Bought some CRF this fall, not sure whether I’ll add, would prefer them do a rights offering to add. Also watching LULU, TSLA, DIS, TGT.