Put it this way... if you put together a trade package for archer where you step back and think, "that doesnt hurt so much..." it's not going to be enough. Broxton, aguilar, perez and ponce dont tip the scales Maybe so. And if so, I say, time to walk away. Getting a good SP needn't cost that much. Apparently it does need to cost that much. If they could get the equivalent or better of Archer for that package, it would have been done.