With your mailman or garbage person, how do you know if it's them or a sub? I guess I'd view that like tipping my broker or my mechanic...I pay them for a service, and they do it. Tips or gifts seem unnecessary. Heck, they probably both make more than me.http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/smile.gif {By the way, allow me to say I wish I really did have a broker.} In my case, both comes out of my taxes, so I don't pay them directly, I guess. My folks used to gift the mailman, and it seemed odd then. He would always put a thank you card in the box the next day, sans postage, which struck me as wrong as well.