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  1. They’re a mediocre talent team, and are right about where they should be in the standings. If you thought a team which doesn’t even roster many of the best players in their own Division was amongst the cream of the crop, then you were fooling yourself from the get go and it explains your frustration their not marching into the postseason as a one or two seed, and blaming the coaches.
  2. This post could be in the dictionary next to entitled. Sheesh.
  3. You’re missing the point. Where is the room for growth in Green Bay. Lack of talent on offense, lack of first round picks, lack of cap space. Those are objective facts. Taking the Packers roster and getting it to a legit contending status within the above parameters is a tough job, especially when there will be pressure from day one as the fans are going to expect instant results. And spare me with all the super stars down with injuries sabotaged their season. That’s nonsense, as they’ve been mediocre all year. Why did the Bears land the hottest coach candidate last year? Because they had picks, cash, and expectations low enough ownership would allow it to be built the right way. You’re upset the Packers a fringe playoff team, yet clamor it would be the best job in the NFL you can’t have it both ways.
  4. You don’t remember the 80s and earlier then. What have they had 4-5 losing seasons in the last 33 years? In the 80s Green Bay is where careers went to die. For context in 1980 the Packers drafted a player 4th overall (Bruce Clark) and he refused to play for the Packers and went to the CFL until the Packers relinquished his rights. What “great” players? I dare you to name players on the Packers outside of Parsons who are clearly the best at their position in the North Division let alone amongst NFL best. It certainly isn't anyone at QB, RB, WR, CB. A flawed team is still going to win 10 maybe more games, and people equate that with sucking. Signs of a spoiled fan base.
  5. What’s Policy going to do? Blow it up and start over? Their cap room is tight and no first round picks for 2 years, and sky high expectations from a fan base where one has to be in their mid to late 40s to even understand what it’s like for the team to actually suck. Even assuming they could identify an up and coming GM who would be better than the current GM, said mythical GM wouldn’t find the Packers situation all that appealing. LaFleur and Gutekunst will both get extensions
  6. TE might be close between Tucker and LaPorta. Same amount of games played in their career, LaPorta has been a bigger weapon for Detroit with more yards and touchdowns, Kraft has a better yards per catch. The best RB in the division is Gibbs and it isn’t close. If we’re being honest and not homers Swift is probably second best, then Jacobs. No Packers receiver would probably be more than a #3 on the other North division teams. St. Brown, Williams, Jefferson, Addison, DJ Moore, Odunze/Reed/Doubs?. Depending on the criteria, Goff beats Love in all the statistical categories now. Evaluating on moxie and play making ability? That might be Caleb Williams. Greatest future potential? Also, likely Williams.
  7. It’s philosophical. The other side is you don’t leave trips to the red zone empty handed.
  8. LaFleur and Gutekunst likely both get extensions because they won’t allow them to be lame ducks, and while you can justify firing Gutekunst it’s too big a gamble you could both a better coach and GM, or even find a better GM who would agree to work with LaFleur
  9. I don’t disagree. That’s why he went out and got Parsons— job preservation. LaFleur is a good coach, has schemes to move the ball and score against almost everyone with mediocre talent on offense (how many first round picks does he have on offense? 3?) Gutekunst is a competent GM, would be a gamble assuming you can get someone even better. Then there’s the question if you fire Gutekunst, you likely have to fire LaFleur as well, as a new GM will want his own coaching hire
  10. It’s not LaFleur’‘s fault they lost. yeah they should’ve kicked the field goal early in the game. Nonetheless, LaFleur had a game plan to put points on board and did so with his back up QB even. Defense and ST let them down. Jacobs and Doubs fumbles were the difference in the game The 2025 Packers are just not as talented as the hype machines would have you believe
  11. Don’t fool yourself, look at the talent the Bears have invested in offense. Williams, Loveland, Odunze and OT Darnell Wright were all top 10 picks. , DJ Moore was a first rounder, Swift was take 35th overall and Luther Burden 39th overall. They traded for 2 Pro Bowl guards this year too. Does Ben Johnson get credit for exceeding expectations this year (even though they were set pretty low)? of course, but there are probably high school coaches that could succeed in the pros with the talent group the Bears have amassed in offense. LaFleur knows what he’s doing and schemes up a good game plan, but it’s objective that LaFleur doesn’t have the same talent level on offense as Johnson does so it’s not an apt comparison.
  12. We’ll see how it shakes out. You’re right they have got a pretty good grip on the final conference playoff spot right now; but haven’t earned anything. If they lose to Chicago and Baltimore (they do struggle against mobile QBs) they would then need help to get in.
  13. I’m not talking solely defense. Although if you want to go there, the defense with Parsons not putting away the Giants and Cardinals with backup QBs until the final drive of the game, and getting 40 dropped on them by the Cowboys without Lamb their best offensive weapon, all speaks loudly. The point is and remains: the whole team even with Parsons wasslightly above average at best. Not the top team in their conference, and through 14 games with Parsons nobody can say they were even the top team in their division. It would be an interesting exercise to take time and go through the rosters of the NFC North how many players on the Packers outside of Parsons would even be the best player at their position in the division? McKinney, maybe? Tom? Would it really boils down to, is the GM has been spinning his wheels for 5+ seasons, his contract is coming up, so he pushed in all his chips and hopes to make a splash with Parsons, and improved results before last Sunday weren’t readily apparent for his team, and no the long run is bungled with lack of premium picks and huge contractual guarantees.
  14. It is objective, they are no better this year through 14 games with Parsons than last year, but last year they had seven games against playoff teams on their schedule. This year they’ve had what turned out to be an easy schedule. Backing up for a moment, in ‘24 they went 2-5 against those 7 playoff teams , 1-5 in their division and some how convinced themselves they were one player away from being a Super Bowl contender If you think the 2025 Packers are on a similar trajectory to the 2010 team, you’re fooling yourself. Reflect a moment and ask yourself in how many games have they actually played consistent good football. 2 games maybe? And that’s with six games so far against bottom rung teams, Now, they don’t have Parsons, the picks or the cash to try to get better in 2026
  15. Watch the clip, he must’ve taken too many shots to the skull: he doesn’t remember that he actually got 23 million dollars guaranteed from Arizona. Next, he says while there was no guarantee he would accept it; he wanted the Packers to make him an offer, then contradicts himself at the end of the clip, saying if they would’ve offered him $5 million he would’ve taken it. That’s the problem with talk shows and podcasts they need content, so when some guy goes on and feeds them a line of BS, they don’t have the ability to call the on it.
  16. Unless they believe there’s somebody they can get who’s better they’ll keep him and give him another contract. Sherman and McCarthy hung around like that longer than they should have
  17. He’s played 12 of 14 games, they are undefeated in the games he missed! Give me a break.
  18. Ha ha. They haven’t played a game without Parsons yet. If you mean Watson and Elgton Jenkins as best players, I guess the bar is set low for the definition of best players. They’re 3-1 since Wyatt went down. Hard to argue his loss has meant much despite the hype.
  19. There’s no negativity, I don’t buy into the Packers/media hype machine. Nobody had the 2010 Packers winning the Super Bowl. They happened to gel late in the season and get on a roll. What does that have to do with calling the 2026 squad’s mediocrity? My point is: playing what turned out to be a fairly easy schedule while adding a premium talent like Parsons, the Packers have not performed any better this season than their wild card team of ‘24 who got bounced in the first round. They apparently weren’t as good as they thought they were and paid a high price to find that out. We’ll see if they can win Sunday earn that division title and maybe get on a roll.
  20. Oh boy. Every team has Super Bowl odds. They’re not a predictor of reality, it’s to set betting expectations so the house makes money either way. There is no way to back door your way to the Super Bowl. 5 of the Packers 9 wins have come against doormat teams who have less than 20 wins combined. They are 1-3 this year against non-losing teams outside the NFC North (Which may suggest their division isn’t too good this year either). More importantly, they might not make the playoffs and Parsons hasn’t missed a game yet! Super Bowl Contender. Sheesh.
  21. Come on! Sounds like an apologist. Every team has injuries. A team with Super Bowl aspirations doesn’t drop games to Cleveland, and Carolina and get lit up for 40 points on defense. Those were with Parsons. To go further 2 best OLs? Elgton Jenkins was already a bust at Center when he was hurt. (Their OL actually improved when he went down). Who’s the other OL? Tom, Walker, and Rhyan have played all 14 games. Banks 12, Belton 11. Maybe you mean Morgan… haha. They were 4-3-1 with losses to Cleveland, Carolina and a tie with Dallas before Wyatt got hurt so not sure you’re right there either. Watson has never had 650 receiving yards in a season due to injuries. If he’s truly one of their “2 best WRs” as you say, then it also means their receivers aren’t any good. Point is they were 11-6 last year. Added arguably the best defensive player in football and are 9-4 with 3 games remaining when said best player suffered a catastrophic injury. Sounds to me like they weren’t as good as they thought they were; paid a high price (Parsons) to find that out and now are going to have to really hit on some players in the second day of the draft and later to get better for next year.
  22. Didn’t take long for the Parsons trade to turn on the Packers. Despite adding a superstar defender the Packers are not better (record wise) in ‘25 with Parsons than without in ‘24. So one could already argue the Packers mis-evaluated where they were as a team and the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze. With Parsons out into next season they can’t cut underachieving Rashan Gary now. Yet he, Love and Parsons all makehuge dollars resulting in limited cap room without converting guarantees to bonuses and fouling their future cap. With cap issues Infusing more talent into the roster will be more challenging and only exacerbated by the 2 first round picks that went to Dallas (cue up jokes they would’ve botched the picks anyways!) Finally a big question mark if Parsons who relied on speed and explosiveness will be the same post surgery. The Packers do not have an out with Parsons until after 2027. Bakhtiari’s struggled for 2 years after his non-contact ACL injury and still ultimately ended his career. Though Watson seemed to have recovered back to pre-injury levels. If Parsons doesn’t make it all the way back, and the team goes backward on the field it probably costs the front office their jobs
  23. They won the division with 97 wins and basically return the whole squad in 2026 if they choose to. The wish list likely includes a five tool shortstop, controllable starting pitching and/ or a power hitting corner infielder. The shopping list likely includes a back up catcher, utility infielder and pitching depth.
  24. Look at it conceptually: Duran coming off of a down here with a 4.7 war. Say he simply matches that for the next three years that would be 14.1 war. Peralta coming off his best season is a 5.5 war pitcher. He took a team friendly extension once in the past, so I would put the odds at him declaring free agency after 2026 as near 100%, no matter what team he is on. Megill has been a 1.5 war pitcher and has two seasons of control left. 14.1 > 5.5 + 3. That’s why these two teams don’t really lineup for those players. Boston will certainly want more than Peralta and McGill for just Duran. Additionally, the Brewers are not likely interested in dipping into their minor-league talent to acquire a corner outfield bat, where they’re already have everyday starters at those positions plus a litany of bench players for those spots on their 40 man roster
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