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Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Need players to fill out a roster and they had to pay him anyways? -
That would be a bold move given the chances they gave to Norris and Schoop in recent years. But yeah, Canha has been a slice above crappy this year (which is why Mets were essentially giving him away for free, and willing to pay money just get something in the first place). There’s no reason his leash in Milwaukee should be very long.
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Keston Hiura has a .984 OPS in Nashville
Jopal78 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
I could see Tyler Black coming up for September with a Winker DFA. I kind of hope they simply release Hiura; so the dream can “officially” be over. Though I guess the Brewers are doing him a solid giving him ABs in AAA to keep him game shape in case somebody needs a late season body in the majors Anybody honestly think he’s NOT going to wind up as an NRI for another team in 24? -
Well, obviously. What is the main reason non-competitive teams trade away veterans in the first place?… to trim payroll. And before you bring up, Steve Cohen, it’s impossible to know what the Mets are doing because they are paid more now for former players than they are current Mets. As for Blalock, again obviously if he was in AA his FV would probably be higher. But the statheads at FanGraphs placed his future value at 40 based on what they see right now and in the context of the difficulty of the climb from A ball to the major leagues. What they see is a guy who looks like a backend starter, 5.00 FIP pitcher. He could prove them wrong.
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A real bear market this year based on quality of prospects traded at the deadline if Blalock was the 15th best. Fangraphs pegged Blalock’s FV at 40 which they define as a backend starter 5.00 FIP pitcher. (Best FV on any player traded was 50 or ‘average everyday player’). Urias being shipped out really was just to offset some of the payroll they took on with the other three.
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The middle infielders in Boston are old friend Pablo Reyes, Christian Arroyo and Yu Chang, they sent Urias to AAA. That Boston does not view Urias as an immediate upgrade to that trifecta explains why the Brewers were only able to get a 22 year old pitcher who has yet to advance beyond A-ball but is Rule 5 eligible this winter (and one that the Boston media wrote nary a word about in their articles on the trade) As pointed out by others, it looks like the Brewers trimming some costs in ‘23 with a player who is no longer in their long term plans. Boston gets some a middle infielder who could still bounce back to being a productive player in time and can more easily afford to take the financial risk in seeing if he can do it.
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Maybe, but it overlooks the fact Candelario had more recent success in the majors than Brian Anderson. Most likely they went with whatever player was cheaper. They got Anderson for about 66% of what Candelario got.
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Wait for the minor league season to end so he can be a minor league free agent
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Yeah, I was just thinking of that. They gave up the best player and the two guys they got were in the minors, now one is gone
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Yes, those Mariners who are 4th in their division and buried in the wild card race. 🙄
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Guess we can differ on the term “retooling”. First place clubs that trade away the best lefty reliever in the game is very a small group. Nice try with the straw man reference to obfuscate that what I said a year ago was true.
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Except that wasn’t a retooling was it, and that’s not a complaint. In fact, that statement proved to be 100% accurate because more than a few people attribute last year’s collapse to the Hader trade and the struggles of the new relievers.
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Yes, unfortunately they didn’t get these guys in May they got them with 55 games left. It’s too bad they bungled their roster coming into the season and ended up giving 800 PA’s to a collective of Winker, Turang, Perkins, Voit, Ruf, Singleton, Tapia when the best of them but up a .587 OPS.
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I like the sentence about “how much of a boost it gives them”, that’s my point. Their offense is terrible (13th out of 15th in the NL in runs scored) A couple of mediocre vets, like Santana and Canha - even hitting on all cylinders for the next 55 games - probably doesn’t get the Brewers out of the bottom 3 in terms of runs scored.
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Yeah maybe, but Canha and Santana certainly do not make the Brewers stronger against Atlanta or Los Angeles and even in the best light make the Brewers only marginally more likely to win their division. Really, I think the front office knows that this year’s roster is flawed, yet reached the conclusion that while it’s worth making an investment to improve the roster, they’re only willing to invest enough to make incremental improvements. I just don’t see much point in adding short term players who most likely don’t change the course of the season this year. If the roster is flawed fix it, or retool for ‘24.
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Yes I know by them, I meant Woodruff and Burnes. I could’ve worded that differently
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Guess that goes to show you what Canha’s value was. Mets had to pay 3-4 million to get a middling pitching prospect in return, and presumably that was their best offer.
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I’m not convinced the Brewers won’t simply run it back next year with Woodruff, Burnes and Peralta, make them QOs and take the pick. Sell more tickets that way.
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With heightened expectations come increased disappointment. If this was 2005 folks would be thrilled they were even “buyers”-because what that means- regardless of whom the players were
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Horrid take, but you didn’t say it’s not true.
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Burnes, Woodruff, and Peralta there’s your difference. The Brewers had 3 strong starting pitchers hit the majors at the same time. The Cubs don’t. The Brewers are not terribly run but I sure wouldn’t consider them amongst the best run clubs small or large market. Case in point they develop three all star starting pitchers at the same time and they’ve won 2 playoff series with them and that was nearly 5 years ago. Hell they missed the playoffs all together last year with some of the NL’s best starting pitching. Talk about less with more. They have not developed a starting pitcher since Burnes, they haven’t developed an above average home grown hitter in a decade, they’ve ended up releasing virtually every free agent they’ve signed to a multi-year deal in the last decade before their contract was up. Now with dwindling control of those ace pitchers they’re hesitant to be bold about bolstering their lineup to aid their chances, and at the same time are flushing the amount of future return of those aces the longer they hang on to them.
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Lame. How come the Rays have more wins than the Brewers with a smaller payroll?
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“Massive” no. An upgrade from bad to mediocre, sure. The again what playoff team bolsters the middle of the their lineup with a collection of sun .730 OPS hitters. It’s a team without a direction, they won’t make the moves to narrow the talent gap between them and the stronger teams in their league, and they won’t sell their valuable assets to try to field a stronger team in the future. Just content at being “good enough” to maybe win a bad division.
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Santana and now Canha, The ‘23 Brewer sure have an affinity for .720 OPS hitters on other teams.
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Woodruff.
