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He has a $750,000 guarantee for 2023. When he went unclaimed, the writing was on the wall: go to the Twins minor leagues or forfeit the cash to be an NRI somewhere else.

He has a $750,000 guarantee for 2023. When he went unclaimed, the writing was on the wall: go to the Twins minor leagues or forfeit the cash to be an NRI somewhere else.

That's the point, if Bally files for bankruptcy I don't think the Trustee would allow them to broadcast the games, collect the ever increasing ad revenue, then pay the MLB teams they are partnered with less than the bargained for amounts, unless of course the teams consent (ie. we'll take less money in exchange for a larger ownership interest in the TV network). Frankly, if Bally hasn't paid what they owe under the broadcast contracts, the bankruptcy trustee could simply sell the broadcast rights in the contract to a new company, and use the proceeds of the sale to payback what is owed by Bally, and the universe keeps on trucking as if nothing ever happened. Also, don't forget road teams are not playing for free either. Every MLB team contributes a portion of their local broadcast revenue to a general MLB fund which then splits it up and distributes a share to each team. So the Brewers or Royals hypothetically getting stiffed also effects the Dodgers and Yankees, which makes it very likely that any Bally bankruptcy is much ado about nothing other than some corporate balance sheet shenanigans.

Maybe, maybe not. Somebody is going to broadcast the games and the ad prices are not going to go down, so the revenue is there. Maybe the Brewers gain ownership interest in whatever company broadcasts their games, if so they’re one step closer to having their own tv network which is where the sport is going anyways. I just don’t see how the company who has the rights to broadcast the games can do so, paying less than they promised when ad revenue is constant. Reorganization, sure. Trading debt for ownership in the company, sure. Stiffing MLB teams… no. MLB undoubtedly has a room full of $1000/hour lawyers just waiting to limber up for that fight.

There’s nothing wrong with Tyrone Taylor, but he’s just a guy. He’s not young and at 29 is likely at his ceiling. Because he can play all three spots and has a little power, he’s a nice guy to have around but not a player who is a difference maker.

Probably doesn’t mean anything. Companies declare bankruptcy all the time, investors and debtors come and go and the company emerges with new leadership in the same business. Sinclair is the parent company; they’re not going anywhere, the probably will start a new subsidiary company for broadcasting and shirk all Bally’s old debts in the process.

Name two teams that have had too much pitching depth? To be sure, every player is available in the right deal; however just because the Brewers are seemingly deep in rotation options doesn't necessarily make Houser expendable. Given his track records and cost, the Brewers are not simply going to give Adrian Houser away. I could be wrong, but I doubt a contending team is going to trade an everyday position player for Houser. Likewise, a rebuilding club isn't likely spend whatever major league assets they have to acquire Adrian Houser. Third, I doubt any team is going to trade blue chip minor league talent for a 30 year old pitcher who profiles as a back of the rotation starter or swingman, and has just two years of control remaining and is coming off a serious arm injury (flexor tendon strain). Equally important, if the Brewers aren't going to get a major league player back to improve the '23 team's talent level, or some blue chip minor league talent for the future, what's the point then in trading Houser to begin with?

I believe the EEOC substantiated allegations that Astros Owner, Jim Crane instructed his subordinates at his global supply company not to hire women and minorities, and that he paid his female and minority employees less than he did the white men who worked for him, and paid over 9 million dollars in civil settlements related to those allegations. Crane also paid the US Government a penalty for DOJ charges of war profiteering concerning the Iraq War and his global supply company. It is probably best not to look too closely at any MLB owner, as they likely all have their shady deals and arm twisting that put them into the position to be able to afford a team in the first place. Even a young Attanasio worked at a firm that collapsed in a junk bond scandal where his boss went to prison for securities fraud.

Look around at what other players have received this off season. Tommy Pham got 6 million Adam Duvall got 7 million Mancini got 2/14 million McCutchen got 5 million

Just like with Miley, I’m sure the Brewers have lots of offers on players in the bargain bin, and at this point those players are probably choosing which deal to take based on best guaranteed cash, best playing time, etc.

Does it matter who they sell their tickets to? I'm sure brokers sell 30-40% of the tickets at Lambeau every weekend too.

I believe they've sold out all their home games in Vegas so far, and they're amongst the most expensive ticket on the secondary market. Raider merch is always amongst the best selling in the game, thus I would disagree they need to "drum up excitement for the fanbase." I do think its debatable as to the amount of skill they truly have (6-11 last year). They were not good last season even before a bunch of their players were injured and went on IR. The Raiders are also the text book example of a dysfunctional franchise. Who knows, but Rodgers seems too wise to get stuck in that kind of mess voluntarily. But most importantly, Tom Brady is a free agent and if he decides to play, the Raiders could potentially sign him for just money, whereas Rodgers would cost picks and cash and they would still need to know if he was going to play for them.

Not really. I do agree with you I don't think it's likely he will walk away from the guarantee he has next year. On the other hand, he has been paid close to half a billion dollars in just NFL salary alone, so anything is certainly possible in an individual with that magnitude of wealth. What is more, the Packers absolutely believed he might have walked away after the '20 season and that was a situation where he would have had to pay back part of his signing bonus to do so. Under his current contract, he doesn't have to pay anything back if he walks because most of the remaining money is all roster bonuses, meaning he only gets it if he's on the roster. Rodgers has all the leverage. It's actually the exact opposite of your statement: it is now painful for the Packers to walk away from Aaron Rodgers. Even if Rodgers wants out of Green Bay it would probably be still difficult to put together a trade with a significant return for the Packers. No GM going to put his career on the line trading for a mercurial Aaron Rodgers without first getting a commitment that he's "in" for multiple seasons, and I assume Rodgers isn't going to give up the leverage his contract affords him. Would some team take a chance thinking they could talk Rodgers into playing for them? Sure, but it certainly wouldn't be a First or Second coming back to Green Bay in that situation. As to the notion of a team being interested in acquiring Rodgers to drive revenue; it probably means said team isn't competitive so they wouldn't be a match in the first place. Honestly a trade of Aaron Rodgers, would be very similar to when the Mariners traded Ken Griffey Jr. He demanded from out and with 10/5 rights dictated where he was willing to go to. As a result the Mariners got bits and pieces back for a once in a generation hall of fame talent.

I wonder how many other players the Brewers have offers on they’re just content to wait them out. As a “buy low” player, they have nothing to lose. He bounces back and it works out, or he’s washed and they DFA him at some point. At the very least, the less they have to count on Singleton, Toro, Hiura, Owen Miller and the AAA OFer from the Yankees the better

Nobody is going to trade for Aaron Rodgers. He would necessarily have to commit to playing for more than a year to even make it plausible for Green Bay to deal him; something he hasn't done the last three seasons.

Trading Renfroe wasn’t a salary dump though. It’s a reallocation of resources.

Will Smith (LHP) is still looking for a job, Jurickson Profar has played every position where the Brewer still need help.

Guys like Kieth Law? That Harvard educated economist slash sports journalist who never played baseball? You know, the guy who published an article in September titled “Guys I was Wrong About” If it was a science or required a specific skill not everyone could do it. Yet literally anyone can compile a list of baseball players and argue until they’re blue in the face how awesome they are or how dumb anyone who questions them may be.

Nope. I’ve got a calculator and baseball reference bookmarked. You too with a little time and effort could calculate Singleton’s PAs and OPS through age 20, and then even determine exactly how much offensive production Chourio will have to generate in the next two seasons to match it. Singleton wasn’t a slouch in the low levels of the minors.

Who says they're comparable? Sportswriters looking for clicks? And "Actual Comparables" is based on what; other players who had big minor league seasons as kids in the low level minors? None of the prospect game is scientific, it's heartstrings and hopes and making educated guesses. To illustrate further: Singleton-Low A at 18: 872 OPS (450 ABs), High A at 19 : .834 OPS(530 ABs), AA at 20: .893 (555 ABs). Chourio-Low A at 18: 973 OPS (250 ABs) High A at 18: .805 OPS (127 ABs), AA at 18: .284 OPS (23 ABs). Chourio will have to be on top of his game for the next two years, just to match what Singleton did in the minors through age 20, yet they're not comparable prospects for some reason? When someone has made their mind up and won't consider alternative possibilities, there's no real point in further discussion. However, I'm sure you didn't realize but it is worth noting anyways, Chourio did play for the Brewers rookie ball team in '21 in the Dominican Rookie Summer League. It's really splitting hairs to assert he "skipped rookie ball entirely".

It is a blind guess because for every Tatis Jr. there’s a Jon Singleton. He looks promising I hope it turns out that way, but it’s still just guessing on future production based on past performance. As for timing, never say never, but in the last 25 years the Brewers haven’t really skipped any of their prospects through the upper minors to the major leagues, so it likely will be sometime before Chourio is a major league regular even if he continues to rake. Prince Fielder the best high school prospect they previously had; put up a 921 OPS in the minors yet played most of a season at each level.

Not a chance. Major league league starting pitching brings more every time. Chourio doesn’t have as much value to other clubs as one would think. 1.) Elite prospect for elite prospect trades rarely if ever happen. 2.) Teams trying to compete now, aren’t going to trade key veterans for Chourio as it’s counter intuitive. 3.) Given where the Brewers competitive window is, they can’t really afford to trade too many young players for veterans from the non-contenders. As for his internal value to the Brewers, Chourio could very well be the next Ryan Braun, but nobody is going to have more than blind guess (ex. check out his winter league stats… they’re not good) if that’s true (best case scenario) at least for another year or possibly more, by which that time most of the current 25 man roster will either be gone or almost out the door. It would be a different story if he blew the doors off of AA last year and was ticketed for AAA, he’s still a ways away.

I suppose, but how can 1-4 be anything but Burnes, Woodruff, Peralta, Lauer? Then Adames and Contreras at 5-6, then you have to figure Houser and Ashby around 7-8 as they both are bonafide major leaguers who can start and relieve with better than average results. Add in Urias, Devin Williams, that's 10 right there. As highly touted minor leaguers at the cusp of the majors you'd have to have Frelick, Mitchell, and Wiemer somewhere near there. Then, Tyrone Taylor (not my favorite player) but plays all three OF spots and remains pre-arbitration eligible. Now we'd be getting into the flawed players area where I think Winker, Tellez fit. Yelich is the great unknown too. I doubt he ever "finds it" again, but if he did he would be #1 or #2 with a bullet.

Greg Brock? That is really scraping the bottom of the barrel, maybe these should be Top 3 lists? Besides, Paul Molitor made 140 starts at 1B for the Brewers, while not a regular at 1B was certainly a better player than Greg Brock. Ditto Mark Loretta who made 150+ starts at 1B as a Brewer. John Jaha was a way better hitter and made approximately 450 starts at 1B for the Brewers not too many fewer than Brock (approx 490), yet he warrants only honorable mention....boy tough crowd.

He already had a good season with in ‘22. You mean ‘23. Sure if he puts up a .900 OPS in AA maybe they skip AAA altogether but that’s not really the Brewers style, especially a player who isn’t even 19 yet.