People throw his name out as a TOR.... clearly you missed whole context of what I wrote. TORs take the ball in those meaningful games. Suter is decent pitcher but nowhere near TOR. I’d have zero confidence of him taking on a legit TOR in must win game. No one said anything about him pitching in high leverage game 6 or 7 but I feel that is best way to judge a guy on if they are TOR or not. Everyone on here is different but I consider TOR to be Ace, 1A, & #2. Ace is a guy who you believe is a lock to win every game. Think there is 100% they will win.Sabathia, Sheets, Greinke are probably only 3 that I have had that confidence with 1A is a guy who you believe can duo with almost anyone and are fairly confident you will win. Not as dominant as Ace but not far off. I’d say 90% sure they will win. This is where I’d put Yo, Jimmy Nelson #2 is a guy who is consistently good. Doesn’t have the pure dominant stuff of the Ace but always puts you in strong position to win. When these guys are on mound I’d say you are 80% sure they will win. Chase Anderson last year, Marcum. Now that’s just me. I favor dominant stuff to be confident in a pitcher as well. Suter, Davies, or any other soft toss command pitcher I never say are higher than 4 because I’m not confident in those guys to win every time out. They need to be perfect hitting spots with much less chance of surviving a mistake. I don't believe I missed any context. I agree with you completely. I think we can both agree that Suter (and guys like him) can be useful staff options, and even lower-rung rotation options. But there are many more posters here who want Suter banished to long relief or even starting in AAA than those who truly believe he has TOR potential. Personally, I think his upside is right in between those outcomes, which is pretty much the exact role he's currently serving.