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Deal is agreed to, pending physicals. Was hoping for an outside chance the Brewers were able to land him. Curious to see what is going back to Cleveland.

Also, he wears his pants at his knees.

I played with this for a good 15 minutes. That was fun.

Woodruff is a top of the rotation arm and I think Houser will surprise people this year (if he didn't last year). Everyone just wants the big name. For example, take these two pitchers: Pitcher A 195 IP / 3.96 ERA / 3.48 FIP / 1.259 WHIP / 9.0 K9 / 2.3 BB9 Pitcher B 111 IP / 3.72 ERA / 3.88 FIP / 1.240 WHIP / 9.5 K9 / 3.0 BB9 Pitcher A is Zack Wheeler and he just signed a $118 million contract Pitcher B is Adrian Houser and he will make about $600k this year Stop listening to ESPN and MLB Network. They only talk about the big names and lead you to believe that signing those guys is the only way to build a good rotation. It's not.

I don't know why people dislike this deal... 1. He is a veteran with a lot of experience and you know what you are going to get (when healthy). 2. Allows us to stabilize the rotation instead of going with young unproven guys like last year. 3. Burnes and Peralta don't have to shoulder the load of a spot in the rotation and can be developed and used in the bullpen. 4. Really good value and doesn't inhibit Stearns from making larger moves.

We should all know by now that Stearns will NEVER sign a pitcher to an expensive multi-year deal because pitchers success can vary so much from year to year. He is much more likely to give big sums of money to hitters since they are more of a sure thing.

I am just going to get out in front of this before it gets out of control...let's chill with the terrible signing stuff. This is a cheap, depth signing that probably cost the Brewers a few million bucks and he may not even end up making the rotation. Given his injury history I bet the deal doesn't have a ton of guaranteed money and is pretty incentive laden. Extremely low risk deal and if he ends up being terrible its not going to cost much for the Brewers to let him go.

I think he will be making much less than Anderson's $8.5m

Financial terms unknown at this point but I can't see it being very much. He's not going to blow anyone away but I like this as a solid #4/#5 signing. Doesn't matter how bad Omar Navarez is at throwing out runners if we have a few lefties in the rotation holding guys on.

If true, it's going to be simply amazing that the Angels will have arguably the three most talented baseball players in the world, and yet from my perspective will still have a mediocre team barring some significant trades. Yeah this really isn't going to do anything for their garbage pitching staff, but they have the money to change that.

What did Greinke cost? Lorenzo Cain, Alcides Escobar, Jeremy Jeffress, and Jake Odorizzi. Odorizzi was flipped for Wade Davis, a member of their bullpen for the 2015 World Series. Cain and Escobar started for the Royals. Not even two years later, the Brewers dealt Greinke for Hellweg, Pena, and Segura. Segura was okay, and helped the Crew land Chase Anderson and Isan Diaz. The former did okay with the Crew. The latter helped bring Yelich. Then there's what CC Sabathia cost for three months. Trading for the TOR starter is arguably more expensive than signing one in free agency. It's a different form of paying out, but it also matters. What kind of teams TYPICALLY go deep in the playoffs and win the World series?? Teams with the best pitching staffs, right?? Obviously pitching matters but you don't need Aces up and down the starting rotation to be successful. The 2014 and 2015 Royals had no "Ace" on their team and neither did the 2018 and 2019 Brewers. All you care about are names. There are many ways to be a successful pitcher.

If he is able to come back to where he was before, this is a huge addition. Not just because of what he brings specifically but CC would also be able to use Hader in the that fireman role and not just be limited to the end of the game. Hopefully he is healing well I haven't heard much of an update.

The Fox Sports contract is up next year so they should see a bump in TV revenue after signing a new deal. Currently, Brewers are bringing in $21 million per year from FSW. Yes, they do get revenue sharing but compare this to LA and NY of almost $200 million per year and you can see the vast differences in how much payroll teams can afford. What can the Brewers expect with the new deal? Well, the Royals are close to signing their new deal that would bring in around $50m per year for 10-15 years. This is probably the closest comparison in terms of market size that the Brewers can expect next year. A nice bump for sure.

Sounds like he had multiple two year offers but chose to remain in DC

Haudricourt in his story in the JS earlier this week said the team finished in the red last season. Which means they did not make a profit. As much as we want them to spend, spend, spend, it doesn't work that way. Owning a baseball team is not a huge for-profit enterprise, but they shouldn't be expected to lose money, either. The naming rights and merchandise sales money are not much ... and those numbers are readily available. And when you drop payroll to gain money back, you end up losing attendance, merchandise sales and the like. With a small market team, it's about trying to find that happy medium. I think Attanasio probably went with the max payroll he was comfortable with last year, and took a hit in his pocketbook because of it. Can he handle that? Of course ... the guy is a billionaire. But he didn't get to be that billionaire by investing in enterprises that continuously lose him money. And no ... he doesn't "owe" any of us fans an increased payroll or superstar players. We as fans aren't owed anything. It is entertainment, and if you are dissatisfied with that entertainment, you have other options to spend your money on. The Brewers are doing a fine job managing within the tight constraints of a constrictive and unfair MLB economic environment. The difference between MLB and the NFL is that the NFL is all about the league and the shield, and MLB is all about the individual teams. Therein lies the difference. The big money teams will never all there to be true parity, so teams like the Brewers have to scrape up every resource they can, think outside the box, and if enough things go right, they might just get a bite at the apple every few years. I can always count on Joey Meyer Bombs for logical, level-headed takes.

So sick of this narrative. Mark is not going to take a loss just for a chance to win. He is running a business, not a video game franchise. If you feel so strongly that an acceptable payroll is $150 million then by all means, become a billionaire and buy the team and run the payroll up to $150 million. It's really easy to tell people how to run a business from the outside. Brewers fans get awfully greedy after two straight playoff appearances. Can't we just accept the fact we are experiencing one of the most successful runs in the history of the franchise? Damn...

But with the firings in the scouting department earlier this year the Brewers seem to be relying more on video scouting and a growing analytics department, much like the Astros. So having draft picks isn't really what it was since teams are able to find value anywhere.

I wish MLB would just let you trade any pick (or maybe any pick in the first few rounds). Seems crazy to be the only league with such rules. They don't let you do that? I figured teams could but they just didn't. Wasn't aware there were rules around it.

Just say no. Vogelbach is a DH with a .204 career BA. Hits some HRs, but a PH at best for the Crew. Kelenic is a A ball prospect. Seager is way too expensive. Why not just get the most desirabel player, Narvaez, and keep Hader? It was sarcasm, but if I can get Kelenic, I do it. He is 19 years old and already progressed to AA. He will be in the majors in two years and will be a franchise player. Not sure Hader makes much sense for Seattle though, they are still a year or two away.

Honestly, I am not too concerned about defense. Look at the comparison for runs scored and winning percentage vs defensive metrics and win percentage. Screw defense. Crush balls. Go Brewers. But seriously, his bad stolen base % numbers can be mitigated by having him catch lefties like Lauer and future Brewer Dallas Kuechel.

Maybe he can offer some versatility and play 1B as well? Doesn’t look like he has done it in the past though.

This front office is not above criticism. But when every post turns into a bashing session of the team's front office, that's exactly what it is. But back to Wheeler. I don't see that contract working out for the Phillies. But they have the money to eat it, so it isn't going to matter too much to them in the long run. Agreed. He rode a very good last two months of the year to score a large payday. The rest of his 2019 was awfully disappointing.

This team has a GREAT core: Yelich, Hiura, Cain, Braun, Woodruff, Hader, and Knebel We have guys who could breakout and become big contributors: Hauser, Urias, Peralta, maybe Rasmussen? Guys who have shown greatness and could bounce back: Burnes And solid contributors: Lauer and Suter This is a solid team already without the addition of a premier free agent...

You mean 10 players from a 2019 team that you literally gave up on in August as they hovered around .500? Remember that? You completely gave up on the team and announced to everyone that you were done and that it was time for Packer season. You denounced the acquisitions of Lyles and Pomeranz big time, while in reality those two turned out to be the "needle movers" you were so upset with the team for not acquiring. You refuse to acknowledge anyone who tells you to be patient and have a little faith in the guys that are running this club. Like I said before ... not a good look. At all. Mic drop.

Not a good Free agent class?? How much better do you want for headliners then Gerrit Cole, Stephen Strasburg and Anthony Rendon?? Add in their very own FA's in Moose and Grandal...that's a pretty damn good top of FA class if you ask me, and sadly, not a single one of them will be wearing a Brewers uniform. The Brewers have never and will never sign players like Cole and Strasburg. That's just how it is for a small market team and you need to accept that otherwise every year will be a disappointment for you. If you are looking for teams to shell out huge FA contracts there is a team about 90 miles south that might be a better fit for you. Now, more than ever, analytics allow teams to compete and be successful without shelling out crippling contracts. This is baseball, anything can happen. Get into the playoffs and you have a chance. The Royals went to back to back WS in '14 and '15 and the Brewers were 1 game away from the WS in '18 and neither team had an "Ace" or a great starting pitching staff (in terms of names, not production)