OldHeidelberg
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LOL isn't that the truth. But still we are debating about this as fans and we want the team to succeed, I don't see letting him retire when we could get a lot of picks as advancing our interest much. Maybe Denver or whoever beats is in the Super Bowl but that's probably a long shot not worth factoring in. Now if he was angling for the Vikings....
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Well I care about the future of this team and not getting any value out of him out of spite doesn't seem like good policy. They'd get tens of millions of dollars returned to them from Rodgers and that's not nothing. This team is not hurting for cash even after last season, that doesn't do much for me, still have the cap. Now maybe if they refunded those millions to ticket holders or stockholders? Nah, that ain't happening. Edit: maybe returned bonus money frees up cap space? I guess if it is bonus that would be applied to this years cap it would but not sure how much of that and his salary we could spend or rollover
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Do you really want this circus dragging into the season? We went from 13-3 to 6-10 last time despite Rodgers having a solid year and I remember players saying all the distractions hurt the team. If he wants out ship him to Denver and move on. Saying he either plays for the Packers or retires/hold out is a bluff I am sure Rodgers doesn't fear much.
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Well I care about the future of this team and not getting any value out of him out of spite doesn't seem like good policy.
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I would question how much value a 38 year QB who is always among the highest paid and wants a new contract really has the more I have thought about it. A couple of lower 1st and couple more maybe 3rd or 4th round future picks may be it.
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I mean talk about due, they have to get it right some decade, right ?
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That Gutes may be the guy who doesn't love the idea of having Rodgers long term isn't really a new revelation, we discussed it here when this story started shortly after the Tampa loss. I like Gutes too and feel like once again the org realized (way too late) that things were stale and did a good job once they got out of cruise control and paid attention to football again to put this team back on track. They are probably making a big mistake with Rodgers, he didn't look anything like a older Peyton Manning last year, but just like moving on from MM/TT I think it may be best to end this and get a bunch of future picks while Rodgers is as valuable as he will ever be. Rodgers is giving them their out, at this point it is just a matter of the Packers trying to ease the blow on the fans and make Rodgers look like the bad guy. I am not buying that is all Rodgers leveraging for a bigger contract but time will tell. Still hope he will be back but like I said earlier I am fine with moving on. We were probably aiming too high with our thoughts on the SF and Denver picks Thursday, those are high picks and while he may have that value I don't see too much more tacked on. Packers would probably prefer a lot of future picks to use to build around Love and more picks makes it more likely the trade will work out better for them.
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That is what makes me not care that much if Rodgers leaves, just tired of losing in the playoffs every year. I don't think Rodgers is that much to blame, we just struggle to build a defense that can get past average, but after this last loss I am not sure I believe we will ever win another with him. I addition to this weird QB circus happening all over again the 2 QBs had remarkably similar careers, an early Super Bowl followed by countless playoff failures. May as well start over with Love, it will make for an interesting season that's for sure.
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I sort of think there was some bad blood among some of the Packer brass, probably Gutes from the sound of things, about how things went down in MM's last year. McCarthy was there for a long time and I am sure had a lot of friends in the front office who he still talks to, that Rodgers didn't like him and maybe refused to run his plays may not sit well in a organization structured like the Packers. It seems like a huge unnecessary risk, maybe they feel confident after coming out of the Favre mess looking good but about 90% of that is just how good Rodgers has been. Plenty of blame on both sides I am sure but if the Packers thought having Rodgers under contract gave them the upper hand they haven't been paying attention to pro sports much, stars on Rodgers level can and will force their way out. Really unbelievable we seem to be going through all this again, hopefully there won't be the schism among fans that there was last time but we are in an era where people pick sides and dig in on every issue so not really optimistic.
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It could be I just don’t remember it right but the idea that Favre took a pounding in his career I think is based on him playing through some injuries and of course the saints game. They both played behind some pretty good lines and had seasons where they took a lot of sacks. I think one thing they had in common is being good at moving in the pocket and avoiding awkward hits.
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It could be I just don’t remember it right but the idea that Favre took a pounding in his career I think is based on him playing through some injuries and of course the saints game. They both played behind some pretty good lines and had seasons where they took a lot of sacks. I think one thing they had in common is being good at moving in the pocket and avoiding awkward hits.
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Patriots a wild card? Raiders have been mentioned. Nothing stopping Surtain from being part of the deal,right?
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Well the #3 pick has at least a 2 1st router value. I heard that some local radio sports guy saying it won’t happen until after June 1st for cap reasons but packers will draft as if he is gone. Sounds like someone piling on but I am thinking he is likely gone. Too much smoke... It's much easier for them to do it after June 1, but how could they possibly defer a return until next year? Maybe they pick up a young player like Bosa and a bunch of future picks?
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Well the #3 pick has at least a 2 1st router value. I heard that some local radio sports guy saying it won’t happen until after June 1st for cap reasons but packers will draft as if he is gone. Sounds like someone piling on but I am thinking he is likely gone. Too much smoke...
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5 games over, new season high. Great win! That we are continuing to win despite the injuries a good sign for sure.
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For me it's just the frustration of not really trusting the bullpen and feeling that the 7th inning from Burnes and Woodruff would be big and at 90 pitches is doable. But the bullpen has been better lately and I am not sure what the short season last year means for these guys durability. I think Anderson hit 100 pitches a couple of starts ago(and is now hurt) so it may be that they are just using kid gloves with those 2 as they are such a big part of this team's present and future.
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1-9 with RISP today and the one hit didn't score the run
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Well it is a 1 run game and his spot is up with a runner in scoring position so it makes sense. Except that Woodruff probably is as good a hitter as half our lineup right now, not sure if this should be blue. But yeah 90 pitches is our 100 so far this year.
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Another great outing for Woodruff, he must feel like the red headed stepchild with all the hype Burnes gets in the media lately but he came close to only giving up 1 hit in 3 of his 5 starts today.
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No, we know Woody isn't going to be allowed 100 pitches and that means 3 innings of our bullpen that has already been worked pretty hard yesterday.
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Pretty pathetic that we cringe with our 4 and 5 hitters coming up with 2 on no outs and they don't disappoint.
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Our lineups have really looked ugly the last couple of weeks. I envy the lineup of every team we play. Hoerner has really been a pain this series, we needed that quick low pitch inning here.
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I had hopes for him, catchers break in later sometimes and he surprised us by becoming a good defensive catcher. Has some power too so no reason t think he won't play in the majors some more, hopefully for us.
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Yes!!! What a sweep. whew
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[sarcasm]Isn't that like our average?[/sarcasm]