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  1. Delete please. Stupid enter button. lol
  2. I'll just leave it at this as I've already spent a long time defending the site: it's been accurate on 94.8% of actual trades since its inception.
  3. Yeah, the numbers and logic just doesn't make sense whatsoever with Benintendi because the whole idea behind your non-tendering of Renfroe was to save money to upgrade other areas of the roster. Benintendi blows away that savings at the same position and for literally the same production as Renfroe, when we already have, as you say, tremendous outfield depth in AAA. Let's face it, you just don't like Renfroe for some reason. I don't understand it, as he was one of the few bright-spots on the season and remains a top 10 RF in baseball. And why are you so sure that the Brewers would non-tender Renfroe, but not Suter and Houser? If the whole idea is to save money when you can get similar production from elsewhere in the organization, then that logic should certainly extend to Suter and Houser, who combined for a grand -.5 WAR on the season. They're not going to just give Feliciano the back-up catcher spot based on how long he's been in the organization. He actually has to prove that he's capable of handling it, which hasn't happened to this point, especially with respect to his defense.
  4. You're going to non-tender Renfroe, but not Suter or Houser?? And if we did move on from Renfroe, why on earth would we go ahead and sign Benintendi, who will not only command the same amount of money in FA, but would effectively block our young OF's? Finally, Feliciano could definitely be worse than Narvaez/Caratini as his defense was atrocious in AAA this year.
  5. "Anecdotal" proof/evidence, you'll notice I said. You'd be hard-pressed to get a GM to make that declaration on the record. The article is full of other quotes, too, FWIW, like "both armchair and real GM's use John Blitzer's website to get a sense of what returns their teams can expect in actual deals."". And the site has been accurate on 94.8% of actual trades. It's not the Bible for sure, but it's as close as we'll get as fans to the teams' main, non-public valuation systems. Actually, Corbin Burnes' current value (78.3) is not even close to the Juan Soto package. Juan Soto's MTV at the time of the trade was 165.6 and the package the Nationals received was worth 143.0. If you're referring to his value earlier in the year of around 130, it seems pretty accurate to me given that Soto and Burnes have the same amount of team control remaining and are among the elite of the elite at their respective positions.
  6. Yes. there is anecdotal proof. I just provided a screenshot from an Athletic article in my response to another poster. Of course, teams have their own valuation systems that they primarily rely on, but this really isn't that much different. They use it more to "check their work", as the article states. You're right the Jays wouldn't accept that deal, but that's because they would want younger (and cheaper) talent. The values aren't static, they go up and down based on production, age, control, etc. For example, Corbin Burnes' median value at the beginning of the year was around 130, but it has now gone down to 78.3 due to the expiration of another year of team control. Yeah, not sure where the poster got the idea that Jansen slowed down. He was pretty consistent throughout the season, and had his best month in September/October.
  7. Once again, you are wrong. Should do some research before spouting stuff off. From an Athletic article, in addition to other quotes.
  8. Huhh? His best month was September/October, where he had essentially two times at-bats as the first month....Again, led all MLB catchers in wRC+. I'm just going off of https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/, which is known to be used in some capacity by MLB GM's.
  9. "As mentioned to me before in other threads"???? This is literally the first time I've even proposed this swap. so not sure what you're talking about there. To be honest, your tone is pretty condescending. Anyways, I disagree, because hitters are more valuable than relievers, which is all that Puk is at this point. Moreover, if the A's think there's something to Hiura's adjustments at the plate, they might think they can eventually flip him for prospect(s). Moreover, the value lines up evenly per https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/. Treinen's precise value is hard to pin down as he was injured for most of this season. I just don't see the Dodgers picking up the option given that they also have some key players set to hit FA. On the open market, it may take something around $10 mil. to get him to come to Milwaukee.
  10. He's entering his prime and the metrics back up his breakout. He was good in 2021 as well. Compare that to what we got from the catcher position this year. Huge upgrade.
  11. It doesn't have to be Wiemer. You can probably substitute any one of our AAA OF prospects to headline the deal. But we need upgrades on offense and Jansen provides a great opportunity due to the Jays roster crunch at catcher. We'll have to trade one of our outfielders eventually. Narvaez just doesn't hit the ball hard enough. His hard hit metrics are UGLY.
  12. Jansen is really good (led all catchers in wRC+), we desperately need a catcher, and we have a surplus of outfield prospects. I like Wiemer, but he's just a prospect and has probably the highest variance of anyone in our farm system. You have to give to get.
  13. If they were to trade Burnes (highly unlikely), I don't see them immediately going out and signing Abreu and Clevinger. If anything, they'd pocket the savings and go full-steam ahead with the rookies and the prospects from the Burnes trade. Also, that isn't enough for Burnes. What the Reds got for Castillo is your reference point and should probably exceed that given that Burnes would have 2 full seasons of team control.
  14. Jansen led all MLB catchers in WRC+ last season. He's more than a "slightly above-average" catcher. I was going based off https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/. Jansen's surplus trade value is 17.8, which requires Wiemer+ to match.
  15. This ignores the fact that Kirk is regularly featured at DH, which, if they traded Jansen, would make Moreno the starter. You trade the guy with the least amount of team control, which is Jansen.
  16. The Jays have three starting to elite caliber catchers. They are going to be severely hard pressed to go into next season with all of them on their roster. Thus, they will have to trade one of them, and Jansen is the most likely candidate as he has the least amount of club control Also, you should look at this site, which provides you with a rough estimate of a player's trade value. It is known to be used by major league executives in at least some capacity. You will notice that Jansen has median value of 17.8. In comparison, Houser's median value is 6.1., or less than half of Jansen's. Even a prospect like Joey Wiemer doesn't get you all the way there on his own. So, yes, while it wouldn't cost a Chourio or a Frelick, it will definitely cost one of our upper-tier prospects to acquire Jansen. https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/
  17. Houser doesn't get you even close. It's going to require one of our top AAA prospects to headline the deal imo.
  18. His offensive stats are nothing to write home about??? His 140 WRC+ led all MLB catchers with at least 200 plate appearances...
  19. Good stuff and in line with what I'm thinking. I would probably decline the option on Wong though and use that $10 million to go after a reliever and/or starting pitching depth. Turang is ready. However, a trade for Danny Jansen will likely require more prospect capital than what you're currently giving TOR. A Wiemer/Mitchell/Turang would probably have to headline the deal.
  20. Kolten Wong, option declined Brent Suter, non-tendered Trevor Gott, non-tendered Blake Treinen, signed for two years at $10 mil AAV Keston Hiura, traded to Oakland Athletics for A.J. Puk Danny Jansen, acquired from the Blue Jays for Joey Wiemer, Carlos Rodriguez, and Eduardo Garcia. C Danny Jansen ($3.70M) 1B: Rowdy Tellez ($5.50M) 2B: Brice Turang ($0.70M) 3B: Luis Urias ($4.50M) SS: Willy Adames ($9.50M) LF: Sal Frelick ($0.70M) CF: Garrett Mitchell ($0.70M) RF: Hunter Renfroe ($11.00M) DH: Christian Yelich ($26.00M) 4th OF: Tyrone Taylor ($2.00M) Utility: Mike Brosseau ($1.00M) Utility: Esteury Ruiz ($0.70M) Backup C Victor Caratini ($2.80M) SP1: Corbin Burnes ($11.50M) SP2: Brandon Woodruff ($11.00M) SP3: Freddy Peralta ($3.50M) SP4: Eric Lauer ($5.00M) SP5: Adrian Houser ($3.00M) RP: AJ Puk ($0.70M) RP: Jake Cousins ($0.70M) RP: Matt Bush ($2.00M) RP: Aaron Ashby ($1.20M) RP: Hoby Milner ($1.00M) RP: Peter Strzlecki ($0.70M) RP: Blake Treinen ($10.00M) RP: Devin Williams ($3.20M) Payroll is 5.92% under budget,
  21. I and the person I was responding to were referring to the Yelich extension...
  22. I and the person I was responding to were referring to the Yelich extension...
  23. Why should it cost Stearns his job when Attanasio was the one who pushed for and led the effort by all accounts??
  24. Why should it cost Stearns his job when Attanasio was the one who pushed for and led the effort by all accounts??
  25. Agreed. The depth and top-level talent is better imo than 2016 when we were briefly ranked the #1 farm system in baseball.
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