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Yeah. Obviously, Burnes is a tough sign, with Woodruff being far more realistic. You have no argument from me there. I just think we should be cautious about extending Adames in light of the Yelich deal. Like, is he more the player that we saw in 2021 and September of this year, or the player that we saw for most of 2022? If the former, then yes, sign him to an extension. If the latter, though, an extension is probably not in our best interest. I know that if the Dodgers called us up this offseason and offered Vargas and one of their pitching prospects for him (e.g., Pepiot), I would seriously consider the deal with a viable replacement ready in Turang. I want the flexibility to lock up an ace starter (probably Woodruff) and, eventually, Chourio. Those are the types of talents are the essential ingredients to building a World Series-contending club. God knows Yelich already significantly hampers us.
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Yeah. Obviously, Burnes is a tough sign, with Woodruff being far more realistic. You have no argument from me there. I just think we should be cautious about extending Adames in light of the Yelich deal. Like, is he more the player that we saw in 2021 and September of this year, or the player that we saw for most of 2022? If the former, then yes, sign him to an extension. If the latter, though, an extension is probably not in our best interest. I know that if the Dodgers called us up this offseason and offered Vargas and one of their pitching prospects for him (e.g., Pepiot), I would seriously consider the deal with a viable replacement ready in Turang. I want the flexibility to lock up an ace starter (probably Woodruff) and, eventually, Chourio. Those are the types of talents are the essential ingredients to building a World Series-contending club. God knows Yelich already significantly hampers us.
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Yeah, these are much more realistic figures imo. Though, I'm not sure if I would give that extension to Adames, considering 1) we have Turang (and Brown) 2) we'll be paying Yelich throughout most such a deal, and 3) Adames doesn't quite fit the profile of a player who is likely to age gracefully. Top tier starting pitchers have a much longer shelf-life these days (e.g., Verlander, Scherzer, DeGrom, etc.), which is why I think we need to focus our extension efforts on Burnes and Woodruff, specifically. Adames might prove most useful to the organization as a trade asset to replenish the team with younger talent. Also, it's important to note that, if Chourio continues on his superstar prospect trajectory, we'll want to retain the financial flexibility to sign him to a long-term deal a la. Acuna, Franco, Rodriguez, Harris, etc.
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Yeah, these are much more realistic figures imo. Though, I'm not sure if I would give that extension to Adames, considering 1) we have Turang (and Brown) 2) we'll be paying Yelich throughout most such a deal, and 3) Adames doesn't quite fit the profile of a player who is likely to age gracefully. Top tier starting pitchers have a much longer shelf-life these days (e.g., Verlander, Scherzer, DeGrom, etc.), which is why I think we need to focus our extension efforts on Burnes and Woodruff, specifically. Adames might prove most useful to the organization as a trade asset to replenish the team with younger talent. Also, it's important to note that, if Chourio continues on his superstar prospect trajectory, we'll want to retain the financial flexibility to sign him to a long-term deal a la. Acuna, Franco, Rodriguez, Harris, etc.
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I disagree. The Brewers need to be pushing the envelope for an extension from at least one of their aces. As we have seen this postseason, you need those types of pitchers to effectively compete for a World Series. Yet, they are in rare supply and are particularly hard to develop. If the Brewers hope to capitalize on this next wave of position player talent headlined by Chourio, they will need to retain one of those guys to anchor the rotation (probably Woodruff).
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I disagree. The Brewers need to be pushing the envelope for an extension from at least one of their aces. As we have seen this postseason, you need those types of pitchers to effectively compete for a World Series. Yet, they are in rare supply and are particularly hard to develop. If the Brewers hope to capitalize on this next wave of position player talent headlined by Chourio, they will need to retain one of those guys to anchor the rotation (probably Woodruff).
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Jeff Meyer’s 2023 Payroll Blueprint
Brewcrew82 replied to Jeff Meyer's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Stone has likely surpassed Pepiot on prospect lists after their respective seasons. He's younger, has three plus to plus-plus pitches (as opposed to two for Pepiot), and has exhibited better control. Hence, the difference in Trade Value. Vargas, Miller, and Stone for Burnes becomes an even trade value-wise. You get your future middle of the order hitter in Vargas and two potential frontline starters in Miller and Stone. -
Jeff Meyer’s 2023 Payroll Blueprint
Brewcrew82 replied to Jeff Meyer's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Burnes trade is not quite there value-wise. Would need one more prospect from the Dodgers, though you could also make up the difference by switching Stone for Pepiot. Quintana's salary is way too low. Try more like $10 mil AAV. Yandy Diaz for Taylor isn't a bad idea, though. I actually really like it, as it would allow for Urias to move to 2nd and for Turang to get his feet wet in a non-starting role. Diaz is the sort of high-average/high-OBP hitter we need more of. -
Okay. Yelich being a finalist is a complete joke. Burnes actually makes sense as he's very athletic and one of the best pitchers in the game at covering 1B imo. Still expect him to lose to Fried, the reigning back-to-back winner.
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Okay. Yelich being a finalist is a complete joke. Burnes actually makes sense as he's very athletic and one of the best pitchers in the game at covering 1B imo. Still expect him to lose to Fried, the reigning back-to-back winner.
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I agree with staying away from Contreras, not that we have a realistic chance at signing him anyways, but I completely disagree with giving Feliciano the starting catcher spot. He was atrocious on the defensive end in Nashville this season. Catcher is the position where you can least afford to sacrifice defense, and it's not like his offensive production has been great either.
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I agree with staying away from Contreras, not that we have a realistic chance at signing him anyways, but I completely disagree with giving Feliciano the starting catcher spot. He was atrocious on the defensive end in Nashville this season. Catcher is the position where you can least afford to sacrifice defense, and it's not like his offensive production has been great either.
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Robocaller’s 2023 Payroll Blueprint: Reboot Option
Brewcrew82 replied to Robocaller's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
it's not just Burnes. It's Burnes AND Adames. Which in value is basically equal to the Soto haul. -
Yeah. Unless either suffers catastrophic injury, we have no reason not to expect more of the same going forward.
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Yeah. Unless either suffers catastrophic injury, we have no reason not to expect more of the same going forward.
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Of course, the future will always be uncertain. But looking at the last three years, particularly with respect to xFIP and SIERA is as good as it gets in being able to predict it for pitchers.
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Of course, the future will always be uncertain. But looking at the last three years, particularly with respect to xFIP and SIERA is as good as it gets in being able to predict it for pitchers.
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And which stat did I cherry pick, exactly, "Mr. I literally signed up today and am going to start calling people names"? These are as fundamental as it gets for pitching. I guess I could've included SIERA, but it wouldn't make a difference.
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And which stat did I cherry pick, exactly, "Mr. I literally signed up today and am going to start calling people names"? These are as fundamental as it gets for pitching. I guess I could've included SIERA, but it wouldn't make a difference.
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I'm not saying they're not elite starting pitchers or an elite top of the rotation. I'm just saying that they don't quite match up to those teams, which is validated by the statistical comparison below. Since 2020: Burnes and Woodruff: 822.1 IP, 2.72 ERA, 2.70 FIP, 2.86 xFIP, 31.85 K%, 25.55 K-BB% 24.6 fWAR Wheeler and Nola: 894.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 2.89 FIP, 3.04 xFIP, 28.25 K%, 23.05 K-BB%, 25.9 fWAR DeGrom and Scherzer: 616.1 IP, 2.33 ERA, 2.37 FIP, 2.56 xFIP, 37.35 K%, 32.4 K-BB% 21.3 fWAR Urias and Kershaw: 716 IP, 2.72 ERA, 3.17 FIP, 3.40 xFIP, 26.5 K%, 21.45 K-BB%, 17.9 fWAR
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I'm not saying they're not elite starting pitchers or an elite top of the rotation. I'm just saying that they don't quite match up to those teams, which is validated by the statistical comparison below. Since 2020: Burnes and Woodruff: 822.1 IP, 2.72 ERA, 2.70 FIP, 2.86 xFIP, 31.85 K%, 25.55 K-BB% 24.6 fWAR Wheeler and Nola: 894.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 2.89 FIP, 3.04 xFIP, 28.25 K%, 23.05 K-BB%, 25.9 fWAR DeGrom and Scherzer: 616.1 IP, 2.33 ERA, 2.37 FIP, 2.56 xFIP, 37.35 K%, 32.4 K-BB% 21.3 fWAR Urias and Kershaw: 716 IP, 2.72 ERA, 3.17 FIP, 3.40 xFIP, 26.5 K%, 21.45 K-BB%, 17.9 fWAR
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Yes, But these rosters are completely different. Our strength right now is by far our starting pitching. Take that away and we have little else to fall back on ATM. A Burnes/Woodruff trade, in which you eat away at our major strength, wouldn't win us more games this year without major outside additions, which is a huge ask with our limited resources.
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Yes, But these rosters are completely different. Our strength right now is by far our starting pitching. Take that away and we have little else to fall back on ATM. A Burnes/Woodruff trade, in which you eat away at our major strength, wouldn't win us more games this year without major outside additions, which is a huge ask with our limited resources.
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I was talking about the last three years. You don't become among the best in the game based on one season.
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I was talking about the last three years. You don't become among the best in the game based on one season.
