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  1. This is why Burnes should be traded THIS offseason vs next. This offseason, it’s highly likely as part of the return, a top 5-8 pitching prospect would be part of the return, maybe even another near top 15 as well depending on the team. I’ll take my chances with that type of arm/arms and this teams PDS.
  2. I wouldn’t hate a Woodruff extension, mostly for the reasons you’ve given, but I prefer to trade Woody next offseason for his younger replacement. If we’re going to extend anyone, I want it to be Adames. At least we’d get most of his prime in the extension.
  3. I wouldn’t hate a Woodruff extension, mostly for the reasons you’ve given, but I prefer to trade Woody next offseason for his younger replacement. If we’re going to extend anyone, I want it to be Adames. At least we’d get most of his prime in the extension.
  4. Just don’t think it’s good idea for this SM team to extend a pitcher with most, if not all of his contract years post-prime. I’d prefer the trade route with the return being a big-armed starter prospect. This team has shown they can develop starting pitching, so I’m just going to trust they can continue to develop the starters, especially when they have a big arm to work with.
  5. Just don’t think it’s good idea for this SM team to extend a pitcher with most, if not all of his contract years post-prime. I’d prefer the trade route with the return being a big-armed starter prospect. This team has shown they can develop starting pitching, so I’m just going to trust they can continue to develop the starters, especially when they have a big arm to work with.
  6. No way Baltimore gives up the #1 pitching prospect in baseball, the top pick in last years draft, their top LH starter prospect and another top 75 prospect in Westburg for any package, let alone Burnes plus plus plus. The Woodruff extension could happen, but Adames and Lauer are too low. Houser is just not worth extending. The Renfroe trade seems fair.
  7. Turang is not an elite defensive SS, BA has him graded at 50 field and 50 arm, while MLB pipeline has him at 60 field and 55 arm. My eye-test from watching him play approximately 10 games in-stadium is above average field with a slightly above average arm, so no Adames. Keep Adames at SS, put Turang at 2B and have Urias at 3B. Turang’s range at 2B and better arm than Urias will payoff with the shift limitations, and should also payoff with more DP’s with Turang having a must faster release than Urias.
  8. Turang is not an elite defensive SS, BA has him graded at 50 field and 50 arm, while MLB pipeline has him at 60 field and 55 arm. My eye-test from watching him play approximately 10 games in-stadium is above average field with a slightly above average arm, so no Adames. Keep Adames at SS, put Turang at 2B and have Urias at 3B. Turang’s range at 2B and better arm than Urias will payoff with the shift limitations, and should also payoff with more DP’s with Turang having a must faster release than Urias.
  9. Wiemer could have been bothered by his thumb injury for longer than he let on. So, I’m more interested in his time with Nashville when we know he was 100% healthy. Mitchell has only played in 160 professional games, including 28 with the big-club, so looking forward to him hopefully staying healthy so we can see what he can do over a full season.
  10. Wiemer could have been bothered by his thumb injury for longer than he let on. So, I’m more interested in his time with Nashville when we know he was 100% healthy. Mitchell has only played in 160 professional games, including 28 with the big-club, so looking forward to him hopefully staying healthy so we can see what he can do over a full season.
  11. A Development staff that’s been revamped under Stearns/Arnold over the last 2-3 years. A development staff that has helped Mitchell and Wiemer lower their K rate and improve their walk rate. Turang start to realize some power the second-half of last season. Look at all the hitters that improved as the minors season played out. I think every one of our top 8-9 position players finished the year strong in the box. I don’t think it’s an accident.
  12. A Development staff that’s been revamped under Stearns/Arnold over the last 2-3 years. A development staff that has helped Mitchell and Wiemer lower their K rate and improve their walk rate. Turang start to realize some power the second-half of last season. Look at all the hitters that improved as the minors season played out. I think every one of our top 8-9 position players finished the year strong in the box. I don’t think it’s an accident.
  13. I suppose I just have more faith in this organization as a whole than most. I see nothing but solid departments important to the long-term success of this franchise.
  14. I suppose I just have more faith in this organization as a whole than most. I see nothing but solid departments important to the long-term success of this franchise.
  15. Of course not, but that’s why we keep all 4 of our big-league ready OF’s until we figure out who the keepers are. And I did say “early returns” with minor league hitting development since they’ve made numerous changes in that realm over the last 3 or so years with improvements all throughout the system with their hitters, especially this season.
  16. Of course not, but that’s why we keep all 4 of our big-league ready OF’s until we figure out who the keepers are. And I did say “early returns” with minor league hitting development since they’ve made numerous changes in that realm over the last 3 or so years with improvements all throughout the system with their hitters, especially this season.
  17. Me too, which is why I’m really hoping Arnold tries to mimic Cleveland with regards to the trade-off of the non-extentionables for young controllable talent. Now that we have a proven pipeline of amateur talent procurement, a proven PDS, and what is looking like, at least with early returns being positive, an improving position player & hitting development system, the trading-off of our non-extensionables is the missing piece to perpetual contention.
  18. Me too, which is why I’m really hoping Arnold tries to mimic Cleveland with regards to the trade-off of the non-extentionables for young controllable talent. Now that we have a proven pipeline of amateur talent procurement, a proven PDS, and what is looking like, at least with early returns being positive, an improving position player & hitting development system, the trading-off of our non-extensionables is the missing piece to perpetual contention.
  19. I should have been more specific in my trade return package for Burnes. I should have stated top 10-25 prospect, which eliminates a Cartaya, my mistake. And your right, after re-reading your post you did question some of the return packages as being too much, which I agree with, again my mistake. And while I understand your take on not alienating the fan-base, I’m of the belief that when the fans see the athletes this organization will be installing throughout the lineup the next couple of years, and the excitement of watching players running wild both in the field and on the bases, they’ll come to AmFam in droves for the foreseeable future.
  20. I should have been more specific in my trade return package for Burnes. I should have stated top 10-25 prospect, which eliminates a Cartaya, my mistake. And your right, after re-reading your post you did question some of the return packages as being too much, which I agree with, again my mistake. And while I understand your take on not alienating the fan-base, I’m of the belief that when the fans see the athletes this organization will be installing throughout the lineup the next couple of years, and the excitement of watching players running wild both in the field and on the bases, they’ll come to AmFam in droves for the foreseeable future.
  21. So what’s the alternative? Hold Burnes another year when you know it hurts the future of the team just so it doesn’t piss-off some casual fans? And I said a realistic trade return this offseason for Burnes would be 1 top 25, 1 top 50 and 1 top 100, not Cartaya, Miller and Stone, which the Dodgers likely won’t do, or 4 pitchers with elite stuff.
  22. So what’s the alternative? Hold Burnes another year when you know it hurts the future of the team just so it doesn’t piss-off some casual fans? And I said a realistic trade return this offseason for Burnes would be 1 top 25, 1 top 50 and 1 top 100, not Cartaya, Miller and Stone, which the Dodgers likely won’t do, or 4 pitchers with elite stuff.
  23. Paper is all that should matter. Arnold & co need to do what’s best for the organization with absolutely zero regard for potential fan reaction. Attanasio is no dummy, he’s smart enough to want what’s best for the team. A top 3 SP in the game shopped to the highest bidder will return the talent needed to not just extend the “bites at the apple” contention strategy, but improve the overall talent level of this organization beyond anything we’d get by holding Burnes for another year. Realistically Burnes returns — 1 top 25, 1 top 50, 1 top 100. With at least 2 of them big-league ready. That’s a fair return. That’s also a return more valuable to this team at this time than keeping Burnes for this coming season.
  24. Paper is all that should matter. Arnold & co need to do what’s best for the organization with absolutely zero regard for potential fan reaction. Attanasio is no dummy, he’s smart enough to want what’s best for the team. A top 3 SP in the game shopped to the highest bidder will return the talent needed to not just extend the “bites at the apple” contention strategy, but improve the overall talent level of this organization beyond anything we’d get by holding Burnes for another year. Realistically Burnes returns — 1 top 25, 1 top 50, 1 top 100. With at least 2 of them big-league ready. That’s a fair return. That’s also a return more valuable to this team at this time than keeping Burnes for this coming season.
  25. But that’s the type of return this team would likely get if they shopped Burnes this offseason, especially from a team like the Dodgers who would have a leg-up with extending Burnes, imo. This offseason is the sweet-spot for trading Burnes and maximizing return. Higher probability for the trading team to extend him 2 years out from FA vs 1. Last year, at 3 years control, how many teams would have had the prospect capital to trade for Burnes? or even if they did, would have given that much up? This team needs to acquire big-league ready starting pitching prospects to replace Burnes, Woody and Lauer before OD/‘25. Waiting another year puts injury and or regression into the equation. Even with all things being equal, the return shrinks to less than half due to Burnes higher ‘23 salary. For all of these reasons I believe the team trades Burnes this offseason.
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