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I don't think that's actually their preferred method. I think signing him and locking him up for 8 years with lets say 1TO after this year would increase his trade value significantly. They wanted to sign him last year. If they can't get him signed... then they won't have much choice, but I think they'd prefer to extend them rather than deal him on a pre-determined timeline.

No. Of course not. But lets say the first decade of his career is deGrom-esque? I think we'd all take that. I said last year I'd try and do 8/100 and if we waited until he started dominating, it'd be too late. Others said no more than Ashby or Peralta(I think adjusted for salary inflation) because he has heavy reliever risk. The Brewers SHOULD be extending Made and Misiorowski now and then... you can see how it goes and maybe go with Pena or another young player or pitcher. Look at guys like Harrison, Sproat and try and give them early 8 year deals for...36-40M+ 2TOs if they bite. But I think you'd be looking at 300M total for Made and Misiorowski.

I don't fully understand that. The BP has been great as it stands, but if you take Megill out of there, it sure seems like it will be. Our #2 RHH would be... Grant Anderson? And what are we getting at SS/3B(which I don't think will be a problem with Rengifo, but lets say that it is)... who is giving up a significant upgrade for a little over a year or a late inning reliever? You'd be lucky to get a Jett Williams type. Ok, if Wilken, Adams or Burke can prove they can hit at AAA, then fine. Though they're different players and offer little in the way of versatility. Some 3B/1B, but if they're going to be up, the need for 3B goes down. And that's if Rengifo's BABIP stays at ~.200. I'm thinking it's going to go up a bit. It's really not. Trading Devin Williams at the ASB before the playoffs would have been the Brewers way. Trading Adames before his final year would have been max value. Trading Burnes with 2 years to go would have been max value. They generally trade a guy with a year left or they let him walk. They don't trade a closer if he's throwing well and the one time they did... they openly said they made a mistake. Of course if I took that literally, Misiorowski's value is probably peak value right now. But they're not trading him. You have to have SOME balance for winning and staying competitive. Every year we make what generally turns out to be an ill-fated attempt to trade for a high leverage reliever. We ask about the better ones, they're too expensive, we take a lesser one. I don't see how the BP is going to fix itself, it's going to be... almost all lefties out there(especially if Koenig does come back) and a pretty big hit when your SP'ing is expected to go 5 or MAYBE 6 innings. That's Uribe... maybe Ashby, though he usually comes in after the starter and then just a list of pitchers we have that are in no way high leverage relievers. I put all the lefties in bold. I put the pitchers I'd trust at all late in a playoff game in Italics. I'm just not seeing how you can afford to trade an AS Closer AND say you're serious about competing. This December? Sure. This July if we're near the top of the division? No. It's like the trading pitching depth you proposed trading from. There's a lot of names, but that doesn't mean you want to count on them in big spots OR that you frankly even have enough. We're really at the point where if we're going to trade for someone, we should be trading for a Megill and trading the prospects. NOT the other way around.

So you're asking if Megill gets back to form... which, I think he's back there now as he's gone 7IP, 2H, 1BB 0 ERs and 8K with a 1.29 FIP. Even on the year he has a 2.29 FIP. But if you're talking about ERA... once he's back to a dominant late inning reliever...we should trade him? WHY? That's exactly what we need. A dominant back end of the bullpen. We don't have power arms ready in the minor leagues, we haven't signed anyone or claimed anyone who can be like Megill. I suppose if we're under .500 at the deadline and 10 back... fine, but we're still competitive what looks like a Sunday lineup EVERYDAY without Vaughn, Chourio and Yelich, all of whom should be back by June. What depth? I guess Bauers, but again, I'd prefer to keep him as his value would be minimal and we have plenty of mediocre prospects(and lots of very good ones). We have worse relievers with lots of team control. Dominant closers who can throw an upper 90s fastball by you... those are decidedly more difficult to come by. Are we punting on this season? Or... I'm not sure I understand. You always want to turn a older guy like Megill into a younger version of Megill, but... for obvious reasons, teams don't tend to do that. At best they take an arm like Sproat who they don't believe is reliable enough and they trade him for an immediate upgrade because they don't have the time or the patience to wait, but you're almost certainly getting a downgrade. If you're saying do this AFTER the season, sure. He's in a walk year and we have all off-season to find some arms and you may have a better read on some other pitchers in the system, but I don't see how it serves any purpose to do so this year. If I could pick a position... while accounting for price, I'd definitely look for a high leverage RHed reliever. Obviously I'd love a Starting pitcher, but they're really expensive if they're valuable and we had Pratt, Made, Pena, Jett, coming up pretty quickly, corner IFers(in addition to Pratt who probably ends up there), Wilken, Adams, Burke... But I've yet to see a BP that was overburdened with power arms.

I'm still not sure what to make of the pen. I think it'll... kinda hinge on Megill. His Velo is about where it was this time last year. He has a 2.41 FIP, but they have been just less reliable last year. It's not just the losses, I'd be willing to guess there were more games where they were down 1-2 runs and the BP gave up runs, hurting our chances to come back as well as the 8 losses. I'd love to see another reliever added. My early season crush Grant Taylor is dominant and... a rookie, so no reason the CHW trade him, but I'd love to see that 3rd power arm, right handed power arm added... and I don't think we have one in the MiLB who looks like they'll be ready soon.

Payne seems like the ultimate boom or bust type prospect. I'd rather target players like him in this next draft vs a... Sal Frelick or Tyler Black(even Turang going back to his profile). If you're going off just pure upside in this system, assuming everyone reaches their potential, it feels like it's -Made -Payne -Pena -Dinges(this would mean he becomes a plus defensive catcher at the MLB level). -Pratt-If he's hitting 25HR, 10% BB%. Then we have so many power arms in the low minors. Most players don't hit their ceilings, but Payne and Pena both have the speed to be elite CFers, but Payne hitting .280 with his BB% and potential for 30 HRs could be an MVP caliber player. Bryan Buxon and... even Garrett Mitchell or Joey Wiemer had somewhat similar upsides. Wiemer couldn't play CF at that level. Hope we hit. Seems like those guys rarely do. From Brinson to Carlos Gomez who was still pretty good for a stretch, Cameron Maybin, Bubba Starling, Jo Adell... and more guys than I could possibly remember.

Yeah, it also shows what a "slump" looked like for Bonds! .421 OBP, during that "slump."

They just find a way to win though. They were 10-20... either last year or the year prior and made a playoff run. I still like Ortiz. I believe he'll find a role with a team in the future as a super utility player. Playing 2B, SS and 3B all at a high level... but he's got a OPS of what, .590 the last two years. I could see a veteran reliever who's been DFA for Ortiz, but his value is at an all-time low. If he had an option, I think you may be able to get something good for him(as in a low level arm with projection and poor command) perhaps, but there's no value. As for Pena, this would make sense and I don't think the money would be the obstacle. I think it's a factor now that you have extended Pratt and you really have to extend Made, but not prohibitive. But it'd cost a guy like Dinges, Adamczewski, maybe Braylon Payne a prospect like that+ a Tate Kuehner type arm... IMO. And that may be light. If we had a lineup that was firing on all cylinders and we had just the holes on the left side of the infield, I'd be much more on board, but we're missing our 3 best power hitters, our bullpen isn't throwing particularly well. I'm still on the Grant Taylor train. I'd give up Adamczewski+another solid prospect for Taylor. But not Pena.

It's not much different than what they did with Hardy, except he didn't have the contract. He played some at AAA, got hurt, miss the rest of the year and then they just threw him out there to sink or swim at the next level. I think he's still going to have pressure because of that contract, not in spite of it, but that's part of what you have to deal with. Pressure to live up to it and most baseball players with talent struggle because they start pressing, but... it's professional baseball. You have to deal with some pressure.

Lloyd has had comically bad luck... but according to those who cover the Packers, he's looked great in TC the last couple years. They sent Lloyd to the Badger Athletic Performance Center... which has done a pretty good job in recent years of helping guys like Watson, Stokes, Williams stay healthy(at least from things like hamstring injuries or calf injuries). I wouldn't count on Lloyd, but... it'd be nice. He adds an element this team has missed since we moved on from Aaron Jones.

I don't think there's any reason to think Parsons is going to be out 6 weeks, but if there is, Thibodeaux is a pretty similar player to LVN(LVN had a higher grade last year). Financially it CAN work. It'd eat up nearly 15M in cap space that I would think they'd want for extensions... and if they're going to do make a move for a player like Thibodeaux, Clowney is available. If the Giants are eating 5M of his cap hit that would make it easier. You're losing 3 years of cheap upside in Oliver and Sorrell, both of whom have been staying with and training with Parsons this off-season. I guess how you view those two would have a big impact. I thought Sorrell looked really good at times last year. I think he'll be a good rotational edge. Oliver is a pretty big swing, but easier to justify as a 3-4 OLBer. His speed, he could be a 3rd down specialist while Thibodeaux is more of a well rounded Edge and it seems like there's still a lot more upside in there. We could just make it Abdul-Carter and go with a Penn State Edge rotation. What other positions do you think we'd be targeting? Run blocking TE? MyCole Pruitt is available(and cheap)... Feels like the Packers have to be higher on someone like Glover than we realize, otherwise I think they'd be doing more to find a swing OT. RB could be helpful.

I thought of Thibedoeau before we drafted another edge. I don't think we have room for him at this point. Van Ness, Dennis-Sutton, Sorrell, Oliver, Parsons... then Mosby or Cox as the 6th(at least to start the year). I think we're pretty good there. The Giants are starting to build a pretty talented young team...

Hmm... are we sure about this? His fastest recorded Fastball was 100.9(in the 9th inning and IIRC it was pitch 150) but they measured it from 10 feet from home plate. Now they measure it from the release. Carnegie Mellon University physics department figured he threw 108.1 using the drag on the ball. I'm not sure that's true, but it's still pretty insasne. It's really an ancillary point, but Nolan Ryan was... just a freak. Threw 98 MPH in the 9th inning after tearing his UCL(which effectively ended his career). ANYWAY... main point, Misiorowski is a freak. You see him maturing every start also. Pitching smarter.

They also just paid him a 1M roster bonus last month. I'd have liked to see those 7th rd picks used on a guy like Pounds or World but they may have only had one kicker with a draftable grade.

That's good news. That line from his first outing read like someone who... was not feeling great.

Packers UDFA's https://packerswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2026/04/25/tracking-packers-undrafted-free-agent-signings-following-2026-draft/89735418007/

It's a little underwhelming... but they added two athletic CBs who can play the run, another Edge who has some upside. I wasn't a big fan of McClellan, but the Packers liked him so, I'll defer to them. Secondary now looks much better. Safety position is really strong. One of the better groups in the league. CB-Nixon, Cisse, Valentine, Jackson, St. Juste Edge is really deep. DL-I'd still love Campbell or Cam Jordan(preferably Campbell). OL is the position I'd say is still the biggest "need." Another good RB would be nice. Maybe Lloyd can stay healthy. A run blocking TE? Plus, this just seemed like a pretty mediocre draft.

Tom is clearly the X factor. If he's healthy, it makes the whole OL better as he can handle just about any edge without doubling them. I do hope Morgan is an upgrade on Walker(not just '25 Walker, but '24 Walker). He was one of the guys I wanted in that draft, so... if those two positions are squared away, we should be good. Rhyan's deal had just 11M signing bonus, so you could get out of it after next year if he's not the guy. Kevin Zeitler is still unsigned and after the draft, you can bring him in and Belton can be your swing tackle. I think Belton is a better fit as a RT... though he was much better after that Lions game toward the end of the year. Maybe they like Glover? They usually have one guy they're trying to develop on the depth chart, but not sure who that is. It was much more obvious in the past.

Big leg and consistent. That's something. They certainly checked off a lot of needs. Just hope we can get someone who can consistently hit from ~45 out.

Certainly feels like a hometown discount(or maybe just a discount given he has a year left). After another healthy year, I think 20M a year was a pretty safe bet. Now Wyatt, Watson, Kraft still need extensions.

Another good athlete who can tackle at CB. If Gannon can coach those two up(Cisse and Jackson)... the secondary looks better. Healthy Parsons and Wyatt and you don't need as much from your CBs in coverage.

I'm not sure the point here. Nobody in the draft has played CB in the NFL. You're still drafting trying to improve that position. We're counting on Aaron Banks who is 5 years in, Sean Rhyan-4 years in and Anthony Belton... plus Jordan Morgan to be a better LT than Rasheed Walker... and hoping that Zach Tom can come back from a very difficult injury and be as effective. Right, but this is why it's generally not a great idea to take part of one sentence from a quote and then making an inference based on that. I didn't say they needed help just because I watched their OL play last year. They didn't exactly have a dominant OL the year before that when Walker was playing at a much higher level than he did last year, you still have Elgton Jenkins, a healthy Tom(didn't see where they said he'd be ready for Mini-Camp, but the fact remains, even looking at this OL optimistically, he's the one player who looks like he'll be above average. This was part of my post, but... doesn't fit the narrative that I'm only looking at last years unit to arrive at the conclusion that we could use an upgrade on the OL. The fact is, they signed Rhyan to what amounts to a cheap deal because the FA center class was so weak and we have nobody else who is a viable backup. That was a move likely made out of necessity, but some abundance of confidence that Sean Rhyan will be a better Center with more reps. He'll be starting his 5th year. But god help us if he's not a better C. He had a 38 pass blocking grade by PFF. -I didn't also certainly did not suggest they should draft a LT to replace Morgan. -Banks being bad and or hurt isn't much of a departure from his time in SF. I would say looking at how they played last year is more of an indicator than what rounds they were previously picked in or how much they were paid(especially with regard to Banks)... but more than that, the obvious importance of an offensive line and how the teams that have beaten us being the ones who can control the LOS, that would probably be a better reason than either.

There's just not much to look forward to. I want to see how Deign can develop, what they can get for some of these spart parts. I suspect Kuzma will be traded, maybe Portis and then hope they can hit on a really nice player in the top 10 and get a good package back for Giannis. Even that though, you waited a year too long and... his value isn't as high as it was last year. So we don't own our 1sts, we're likely to be trying to be a play-in team and Giannis, now 31, is probably gone. This hire would have been GREAT if it was right after Bud.

Yeah, but it was still a pretty bad unit. The LT hasn't really played LT, Tom has a serious knee injury, Rhyan was an upgrade over Jenkins at C, but that was more about Jenkins and Banks was both injured and bad at OG. There were people saying Morgan was a better LT than Walker last year, but Morgan provided versatility than Walker didn't. Banks being healthy could help. We've already paid, so might as well take that out of the discussion, he's locked in. Rhyan, have to hope a full year playing Center helps him play better and the most important part would be Tom healthy and ready to go week 1. I'm glad they went CB/DL over Edge/WR... as fun as it would have been to grab Hurst. I hope this improves Gute's Batting Average in the 3rd rd....especially when trading up.

Yes... because Greenard was better than Gary last year despite being hurt. Better pressure %, better vs the run, better the previous two years... and while I think sacks are a bit overrated, he had 12 and 12.5 the previous two. Now he moves to a much better DL.