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That's just insane to me. To me that ball looks like it's got good movement also. A bit of a natural sinker, but just so clean... the velo is already there so you just put him on a strength and conditioning program and a good nutrition program and who knows. Maybe he ends up in our rotation in 2031. Well... yeah, I can guess at the potential reasons, I was just... curious if someone knew. I really wouldn't think Visa's would be one. You don't even need the visa to sign. Just sign, they don't come stateside for a year or 2 normally. And which point, you're a professional athlete, so you should be able to get one.

I'd be fine taking a chance on him to play CF or 3B. I thought his issue was as much with his arm(erratic) than his range at SS, but this is a guy who will have that breakout season at some point. He'll hit 35-40 HRs and just carry a team... I would think. Maybe not, maybe I'm wrong, but he just hits the ball SO hard and he walks. This seems like a bit of a wild idea when looking at actual performance and it seemed like it during the season, but... this are the types of players you take a chance on. The potential return is just massive. I thought he'd signed an extension... but I must have been confusing him with their 3B. Still, dude hits piss missiles, walks and there's WAY too much athletic ability there for him to not turn into a good CFer with more time, so even if they don't believe in his ability at 3B, he only moved to CF last year. The question is, what are you giving up? I have just no idea where you'd start and if I was the Pirates, I would hold onto him until he has that breakout(but that's the same reason I'm on board with trading for him). I would think it'd cost. Luke Adams+ a guy like Tyson Hardin? I don't like giving up either of those players, but I don't like trading any prospects and I may be way off. The ONE area I'd disagree with; I don't know this is true. They'll have Skenes, Jared Jones back, Bubba Chandler, they have a Hunter Blanco, Mike Burrows and Keller to round out their rotation. That's a really good 1-3. Really elite stuff. So the pitching should be good. Offensively there are some holes, but Byran Reynolds is a good player(terrible start to the year). Cruz has that upside. They have some bats and I don't have any confidence in them trying to really address that, but I think they'll be a .500+ team next year. They'll need everything to go right, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the same position the Reds were this year(they should also have very good SPing).

And this is because they were successful TOO often and didn't challenge more plays because; So basically, if they'd have challenged some more plays and lost it, they'd have been in that 60- 66.5% range we've... deemed ideal and even if they'd have lost them, that would mean they did scrap and they WERE good enough. But too high of a pct means... they weren't good enough? This really feels like we're searching for something at this point. ....

Yes, walks inflate the OPS as they help that OBP. And that IS something that carries to the Majors. If you have great bat control, and can draw walks, that carries. I have to say, I really don't consider arm reach outside of the NFL draft. I'd rather have a guy like Pete Crow-Armstrong, even if his arm reach is about 30 feet shot of robbing those HRs. Now... clearly there's some hyperbole as he's no PCA, but he's also VERY fast, athletic and hell, he could be our SS this year as likely as our CFer. He could play SS, then move to the OF later in games for defensive purposes. I'm not even pushing for Jett, I just think your argument is deeply flawed. Talking about the 3-4 plays a year AT BEST you may rob a HF? Also, yes, I would take another Frelick type defender out there. He's been outstanding. Williams is a Frelick type player but younger when they hit AA with more upside. I'll also add... I don't buy the whole "Big market prospect inflation," thing anymore. Not since 2015 or so. Scouts are too good at this and look at the top 10-20 right now. It's dominated by small markets. You're not just thrown into the top 10 because you are a NYY, NYM, LAD prospect. These rankins are MUCH better than they were in the... I don't know, Jacoby Ellsbury days. Jett Williams is Sal Frelick with better speed who can play SS/2B and CF. I also don't think Stearns and Arnold will come to a deal as they're looking for the same things. You want to give up Peralta and something more significant for McClean, fine... but Stearns isn't doing that(maybe if Cohen is really pushing but unlikely even then). So as I've said, TRY and find the guy who is going to break out like McClean NEXT year and then go for it. The Abel type prospects. Abel or Painter were the guys I wanted for Corbin Burnes. By the time they become the obvious pitching target everyone wants, why would their team trade them?

Yeah... his value is lower than Baty's was. He's 27. He hasn't been able to stay on the field for 70 games in any year for the Brewers or in the minor league seasons before that. He strikes out over 33% of the time. As of now we have team control over a guy who... by every single indication is trending toward being non-tendered before he reaches FA, but you want an extra year or two for when he's 31 years old? Why? It's been his ENTIRE professional career. He's got dealt a bad hand, but he's not capable of staying healthy. I mean... sorry, that's just... what it is. Paying almost anything but the minimum would be paying a premium. I think there's a good chance we'll have a couple rookies playing in the OF at some point next year. Maybe Luke Adams or Luis Lara or just Chourio, Frelick, Collins with Perk as the #4. I don't know, but... I see very little upside and I'm not risk adverse. I want Misiorowski signed. Others don't. I get it. But I don't thnk anyone can say they don't see the CLEAR upside at this point. Or Turang, Frelick, even relievers, Uribe... he turns into an elite closer and he's a guy who signed for 10K, you can likely get him much cheaper right now. 7 years/30M and a TO. IDK, I'm just not able to see it with Mitchell. He seems like a good dude. He looks like the type of player who could have developed into a star if... he'd just had better luck. But he hasn't. He's had injury issues, he's had health issues that exacerbate those injury issues. He's also had performance issues. I like the guy. I hope he earns a massive raise next year in arbitration, but he is the last guy I would extend on this team.

1-I don't think Turang is looking at 150M with 4 years of team control left. Ketel Marte... who has probably been a bit better got a 6 year 116.5M GTD deal with a contract already in place for the last 4 years. So I'm not sure Turang can expect a whole lot more. 2-Perez? Catcher? Dinges do you mean or... are we talking about someone else? No, he's repeatedly said he was open to a contract extension...especially heading into 2024. This version that he wasn't interested does get repeated over and over, but that's not what Hogg reported. I think the last thing he said was something BASICALLY along the lines of "I'm content to go year to year." I mean, if you're not offered a long term contract... that's pretty much the most passive thing to say. But he's been rather vociferous in his praise of the Brewers and the city of Milwaukee and how much he'd like to spend time here. I do think that's a deal you probably had to do at last a year ago and I get why they didn't do it with Quero, Dinges and... maybe some Perez guy. Chances are we've got a guy named Perez in our system who has caught! How much risk is there? They have a TJ, you lose them a year. You sign away 8 years of service time 6 years+TOs), you're getting what are likely the healthiest and prime years and you're not in a situation like Skubal is right now where the Tigers and Skubal are 200 MILLION apart after the Tigers offer 250M for an extension. Misiorowski has proven he's THAT type of arm. I think there's more risk in inaction than action sometimes. I'd be 100% on board for a Chourio type extension for Misiorowski. Same with Made after that. In a world in which 2027 isn't in danger, I'd sign him to a deal that gave the Brewers 10 years of team control. You're getting those players at a discount. Otherwise, what we invariably do is wait, they break out, then we say, "the Brewers can't afford to sign players like him." And then we'll spend the final 3 years of his contract debating who we should trade him to, we'll exaggerate the returns(I still remember the Jackson Holliday+Grayson Rodriguez+ posts for Burnes on here). That's an interesting thought, but I think with the WHOLE list of guys, Fischer, Burke, Adams, Wilken, Boeve... I feel like I'm forgetting someone, but we've got so many players who should be ready in 2028. You could give Vaughn a 3 year 36 deal. That seems like a lot for half a season. Maybe 3/30 I'd feel better about, but I think really like Burke, but all of them should draw a lot of walks and hit for power. I could certainly be wrong there. I'm also perfectly happy to give a reliever an extension. Abner Uribe? 7 years/30M and a couple TOs.

No, they did not. They gave up more runs in one game vs the Yankees than in the entire series vs the Dodgers. They gave up 4, 20, 12 and 11 ERs the first four games(vs 15 total in the 4 games vs the Dodgers). They also scored 15 runs in those 4 games. ` And nothing happened to the "torpedo" bats. Some players used them. Some didn't.

Ok, I'm looking at RUNS scored. The best offense in Baseball scored 2, 5, 3 ,5 runs in a 4 game series. That is not the "Brewers pitching completely broke down." Yeah... because the other half of the comment, NOBODY is disagreeing with. It's the claim the pitching was terrible that people or to use your words "completely broke down," that we're disagreeing with.

I'm good with it for the 162 game schedule. I actually like it. The idea that they should use it for the playoffs is... kinda silly to me. In the regular season, I don't want the guy who started two games ago to have to come in and pitch, but that's the whole point of the playoffs. You do whatever you can to win. I'm also confused how it'd "hurt viewership," to not have one. Especially in the context that people had to stop watching the game in the 14th inning . So... they got 5 extra innings of viewership. How was that hurt by not starting with the "ghost runner" on 2nd? Those types of games are epic, all-time greats. And I would have hated to be a Brewers fan, that stress would have broken me, but just watching two teams go after it for 18 innings was great.

.... no, it did not. Our pitching stood up just fine vs the Dodgers.

Are you kidding me? "die hard fans" and "that contingent left the building 10 years ago?" No....they didn't. The Manfred runner is fine in the regular season, it should NOT be deciding the WORLD SERIES. That's... ridiculous. 0-3 you can 1,2,3 inning and you can win the game.

Durbin has 6 years left, Turang and Frelick have 4. Contreras may well be gone, but you have Quero and Dinges. There's nothing to "blame," and "hopium" is an obnoxious phrase. It's like "copium." It's more like it's just the reality. Also, Wilken, Adams, Pratt, Burke, Lara, Quero they're all going to be in the mix next year... very possibly with Fischer, Boeve, You also didn't mention Chourio, Misiorowski, Patrick, Myers, Uribe, all have 5+ years left. And they're not "constantly" doing this. This is the best group of prospects they've had with their already young core.

Durbin was better than Suarez from the deadline on. Suraez hit like .189 with a sub .700 OPS... and in the playoffs, he was also worse than Durbin. He had one monster game, but Durbin put up a .777 OPS. 10M dollars was not the issue. They'd have happily spent 10M if they could have found a real upgrade at 3B. It's the prospects that they didn't ant to match. And they have SO many 3B/1B prospects coming up. Vaughn by the way, he's signed. Pretty much everyone on the team is under team control next year save for Woodruff, Quintana... and... I can't even think of anyone else. Danny Jansen, but he was never coming back on a 12M TO. Two HOF caliber pitchers who are in their primes and have a historic run with the Brewers? That'd be... MASSIVE prospect capital. You can't sign a guy like that. A-I don't think there is one in this FA class, but lets say it's Framber Valdez. He's not CC Sabathia, but he's going to get like...30M a year. So that's probably 50M added to the payroll and then you can't "protect" pitchers. We protected ours this year as much as you could. When they weren't right, they sat... and they were fine in the post-season. We have everything in front of us. We don't need to make two GIANT moves like two Sabathia's, we need our own homegrown prospects to keep developing with this current group. Re-signing Woodruff would be a great move... IMO, but depends on the cost and the risk is rather high. Also a WIDE range of opinions on his value. Some don't think he's worth a 10M. Some believe he'll get 6/170 ish-type salary. I think a QO would be the best way to go. 1 year, limited risk, you get a pick if he opts out.

No, but with each generation, the chips get more efficient. I think companies like Oklo will step in and provide power for some of these. And don't most start up's always bleed money? The mass layoffs... well, I'm skeptical they're needed to pay for AI. AMZN doesn't need mass layoffs to pay for AI, nor does MSFT or Norvo. Some companies are just struggling like Target, UPS... And Tariffs have also taken their toll. I'm not arguing AI is good for humanity. I think it's just the opposite... but it's the next industrial revolution, so as long as it's booming, I'm going to do all I can. Keep my money in NVDA, TSM, AVGO and AMD(though...I was VERY close to selling that not long ago).

I don't know, I stay away from international, but I was told VXUS... Take that for what you will... but I came here just to say HOLY ####... NVDA hits 209 premarket. Over a FIVE TRILLION dollar Market Cap... That's with the Fed meeting tomorrow and with the jobs report... 25 or even 50 basis points seems very likely(25 seems likely, 50 seems a bit unlikely)... If there is a cut....AND a deal with China for rare earth minerals and we allow them to by our last gen GPUs(so AMD MI300, the H100 for NVDA)...this thing is gonna hit a 6T market cap in mid '26. I don't expect things to go that smoothly, but damn! I I mean, I'm waiting for a 10-15% "correction" or some recession in the next year or two, but AI may really be just unstoppable. AMD 265. AVGO 375, TSM 305. I'll assume there will be a lot of people taking profits after a run like this... just adding 500-600B in a few weeks. Not a bad thing to wake up to! Also... not real since I will not be selling, but still, nice to see! My youngest Nephew still wears diapers, but he's up 360%. Though I still don't have his SS# so... maybe his Uncle is really the one that's up!

Yeah, I don't think you can. Being a REAL sports fan... like most of us on here who are probably a little weird, it takes too much energy. I always rooted for the Mariners growing up or I liked the Raiders in the NFL... and I was just a wee lad when Jordan was in his prime so Ah kent they’d hae won(sorry, binging Outlander). But a REAL fan? No shot. It takes enough actually caring about the Brewers, Packers, Bucks and... I guess Badgers. I'm not following Colt Emerson's ABs or his exit velocity or how close he is to the big leagues. And I just happened to pick a team that had a prospect that was... comparable to Jesus Made. I also get a lot of "passes" to watch Brewers games. "I can't right now, Brewers are on." If I tried doing that 6 hours a night? Or even 5 with the Mountain Time Zone... I'm pretty sure I'd be living alone. "Sorry hun, I leave at 8, get home at 5, go to bed at ~11, but I need to dedicate 1/4th of the day to Baseball! I still watch and appreciate greatness. I'm rooting for the Jays(just like I was last time they were here because of #19)... but am in awe of what Ohtani is doing. 4 times they walked the winning run in extra innings. That's... Bonds like.

I'm fine with that. They only step in when something is so obvious, you can see it immediately on replay. They had a couple others this game, but... they're virtually always the right call. they did it with the ball Rodgers threw into the ground. They used to just tell the refs and the refs would just change the call. At least this way, you know there's a system in place. I don't want a game to be changed because Jerry Rice fumbles and we just don't have access to a challenge(for example).

...why? Next week is Carolina and that sets up the matchup with Philly.

Parsons has been... everything you could have hoped for when you gave up 2 1sts+Clark+ 47M a year over 4 years as an extension. This team.... which is looking MUCH different tonight(at least since Washington) has not struggled in ANY WAY because of a lack of production by him... He's doubled or tripled more than anyone else in the league by a good margin(at least according to a graph I just saw) and his pressures are near the top. Myles Garrett would be the only player I might take this year, but when looking at a 3-4 year window, that move is MASSIVE. I don't love how much they need Wyatt to provide pressure up the middle, how Gary an be hit or miss and the OL needs to really gel, but... not that anyone has said otherwise, but Parsons is such a HUGE difference maker. Watson kinda has a similar impact... but obviously a whole different player. This was a GREAT win to build on. Head into Carolina, then get ready for a MASSIVE game vs Philly.

Ok. 1-This started with comparing the Brewers offense to the Jays offense and then saying it wasn't that good DESPITE the fact... that we scored more runs and in Gm1... they hit Snell better than Cincy, Philly and we did. 2-You keep saying "statistics" can be bent any way. Can EVERY statistic though? Or is that just called... facts at that point? -.625 winning pct vs teams in the post-season. -Hit WORSE vs NLC teams than their season averages EXCEPT for... the NLC team that had the 3rd best ERA in the NL, 7th best in MLB -60-40 vs teams .500 or better -Balanced schedules=Fewer games vs the NLC and you play every teame. What stats are being "Manipulated?" I mean, you can just keep saying....effectively 'nuh-uh, stats can be manipulated,' but exactly what stat supports YOUR argument? Just feelings? But yes, MLB teams have their own analytics departments. I don't know WHAT that has to do with this conversation. The entire purpose of those analytics departments is to put their players in positions to SCORE RUNS and WIN games. For the purposes of this discussion, I don't care HOW we got there... the fact is... we are. There's no reasonable argument that can be made that the Brewers season long numbers looked better because they played in the NLC vs any other division save for MAYBE the AL East. I also don't know why you KEEP talking about politicians and pharmaceutical companies. This isn't even tangentially related to either.

There's no world in which the Brewers should have to trade Peralta's meager 8M and then Megill, their closer who will have a salary around... what, 4.5M OR Vaughn. If they can't afford the QO after this year and what their payroll is set at and they have to trade Peralta and then Megill and or Vaughn, that'd reflect REAL poorly on ownership.

He wasn't limited to 65 pitches and 4 innings, they were easing him back. They were up 6-0 in that game. The choose to baby him because they had the rotation depth to do so.

Yeah... I really don't know... this surgery was supposed to be about as simple of a back surgery as you could get. It was just kinda shaving down one of the one of the bulging discs in his back that was causing the pain. He said this would completely heal it and he'd be good to go. So... did he really wear down? Did Turang, Frelick? Or did they just struggle facing a couple o dominant lefties and a couple REALLY good righties? I also think it's... clearly Chourio who is that guy. Going on a winning streak without him doesn't change that.

The topic was quite clearly the Brewers offense compared to the Jays offense. And you responded that we looked better because we played the weak NL Central. I'm not sure when I changed it from offense to "record," but... either way, this is easy enough to break down. 1-Again, we performed worse against the NLC teams with the exception of the Pirates. So not a real strong argument. Saying we overperformed because of the division. 2-The pitching in the division was very good. 4 of the top 12 teams and even the "worst" team was the 21st team. We also COULD look at record... though. 60-40 vs teams .500 or better. 6-0 vs LAD 4-2 vs Phillies 6-7 vs ChC 2-4 vs SDP 8-5 vs Cincy 2-1 vs Tor 1-2 vs Cleveland 2-1 vs Seattle 0-3 vs NYY 3-0 vs Boston 2-1 vs Det =35-26 vs playoff teams. So whichever way you want to go with it, arguing their offense beat up on the NLC(which was my original disagreement) or... by record, it just doesn't carry any weight. They beat the good teams, they hit WORSE vs 3 of the 4 playoff teams and the team they hit the best against... the #3 pitching staff in the NL(behind us and the Padres). So they hit worse vs the NLC teams than their season averages outside of the Pirates. They went 60-40 vs 500+ teams. Offensive numbers on the year; BA-.258 OBP-.332 SLG. 403 OPS-.736 Vs ChC-.238/.315/.392/.707 #9 ERA in the NL -Worse Vs Cin-.229/.302/.389/.691 #11 ERA in MLB -Worse Vs STL- .274/.331/.391/.722 #21 ERA -Worse Vs Pit- .296/.375/.458/.833 #7 ERA in the MLB -The ONE team they hit better against(and again, the team with the #3 ERA in the NL/#7 in MLB). (The Brewers ERA was #2 in MLB) So... again, but this time with the numbers. The ONE team they performed better than they did vs the rest of the league... was also the 7th best staff in MLB this year and a lot of that was beating up the league's best pitcher Paul Skenes this year who had an ERA of 5.69 vs the Brewers ~1.60 vs the rest of the NL. So.... I guess you can say it's because they were in the NLC. The facts don't... really bear that out, but... you can still say it!

Yeah, your answer seems to be ignoring empirical data and going off your insistence the NL Central's pitching was so bad. It wasn't. The Reds, Pirates and Cubs were in the top 12 in the league in ERA(the Brewers 2nd). The Reds had 3 pitchers with WAR's or 4.4, 4.9 and 5.8. Top 5 average a WAR of over 4. We hit WORSE against the NL Central... so again... doesn't REALLY do much to explain why we finished 3rd in runs scored. AGAIN, this was about our OFFENSE and so... it seems obvious we'd then be talking about the pitching in the division. Seems like the NL East would have been at least as bad given the #2 team in that division didn't make the playoffs while the Reds did. You've also changed "record" for "offense." But... alright. 4 of the 5 teams were in the top 12 in ERA. https://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/team/_/view/pitching/season/2025/seasontype/2