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They have to have. They aren't just rolling the dice on 22M.

Under .200 the previous 3 years. I'm just saying... 4/90 for a good defender who is probably going to hit closer to .200? But, I do think Tucker will get 500M and that would have seemed absolutely insane to me just 2 years ago. Tucker's great. He's a 5 tool guy... 500M?

Who forgets that? That directly led to the shoulder injury and surgery. I don't think people have forgotten about that.

I think some of these are... a bit silly. Michael Soroka 2/23, Grisham... who hit under .200 4/90?

You read that elsewhere I take it? That's... really weird. Weeks was always one of my favorite players. I liked the guy. He wasn't the star he was supposed to be, but he'd take a ball off the face and stay in there. None of that handbags crap when there were fights on the field. I remember seeing him get upset once or twice and... it took a lot to get him there. He doesn't strike me as a great Manager. Plenty of current or past players do... Weeks feels too tight.

We're all good! Sports debate is boring is everyone is in agreement... Also, I hadn't actually looked, but Mis should be easily safe from Super2. June 12th, I think they gave themselves enough of a buffer. If the Brewers desires to extend Misiorowski were true, that would help lower the number(the post-season performance may just push it back up).

If he were to accept... which I don't think he would. The 10M is already there next year and it was for this past year. 1 year QO would be the best case scenario. Turns it down, you get a pick, if he doesn't, you only have 1 year.

Yeah... that's actually really far off from Homer's 3 hyperbolic 7,8 and 10 minute drives.

I think Jenkins is likely gone as well. Or back on a very different contact.

Packers moves. -This team has some holes but also a LOT of talent. They've also failed to really play at a high level week after week. Youth can't be an excuse any longer. Nobody cares if they're the youngest team. Not when you trade multiple 1sts for the "final piece." Some moves I've seen thrown around. 1-Asante Samuel Jr(FA), the extremely talented young CB who looked like he was on his way to becoming a star, but then dealt with injuries, he was just cleared to play. If you got him now, give him 3 weeks or so to get ready to play. He could be a real difference maker and he won't cost much, but there will likely be multiple teams interested and the Chargers would probably be the favorite. 2-Quinnen Williams. DT Jets -I saw a rumor the Packers were interested. Jets want a 2nd Rd pick. He's not a run stuffer. He's MORE of a Devonte Wyatt type DT. He's an All Pro caliber player and he's expensive. So... there's that. He's one of the best DT's in the league and it's hard for me to envision the Packers being able(more like willing ) to spend at least one day 2 pick+ the large AAV for another defensive player... but he would make this DL the best pass rushing DL in the league. Hypothetically, being able to line up with Gary, Wyatt, Williams, LVN and Parsons roaming around, that create havoc. If our defense was struggling and we were one impact player away, I'd gladly make this trade. But maybe you buck the trend, make a strong area(pass rush) stronger and try and win like the Giants with Eli did. 3-Denzel Ward CB Browns- I don't see the appeal that others do. He's highly paid and he plays with THE best front 7 in the NFL and he's struggled. The rumor is a day 2 pick for him as well. I'd personally pass. 4-Riq Woolen CB Seattle- He's another freak. Seattle doesn't overthink it, they see a guy like DK or Woolen in the 3rd or 4th, they take them. Like Metcalf, I didn't think Woolen would be quite agile enough to be a star... which he was for a stretch. He's struggled lately. At 6'4 with great ball skills, he could be a HUGE upgrade and is a pending FA. I'd guess a 5th rd pick. If you want to play Cover 2 most of the time, a long corner with his ball skills would be a damn good option. In Man, he's been good as well knocking WRs off their routes. 5-Mark Andrews A pass catching TE to replace Tucker Kraft(or to be our #1). I think this is less likely with the ACFN still up for grabs and Baltimore still somehow alive despite a 1-5 start, but at 3-5 with 2 games left against Pitt, they're still well within striking distance. For people who think the Packers season is going bad... and I'm among them, it does help to look around from time to time. Baltimore started the season blowing out the Bills for 3 quarters, lost a 1 point game, lost 4 of their next 5, Lamar was out. Now getting healthy, they're in the race. I'd guess he stays put... and then joins the Chiefs to replace Kelce after this year as Baltimore has a young dynamic TE in Likely to replace him. 6-T'Vondre Sweat DT Tennessee Sweat would give the Packers a monster vs the run. 6'4 366 pounds. He's been a stud vs the run since day 1. He's also picked up 2 sacks this year, but I wouldn't expect much pass rush. At most, he'd be a guy who could collapse the pocket a bit, but his primary use would be to re-set the LOS and give Quay and Edge Cooper more free running lanes to make plays. Run stuffers generally go cheap. He's 2nd year run stuffer who went 38th in the draft in 2024 and has exceeded expectations, but the new leadership may see a run stuffer as a waste on a team looking to pick in the top 4-8. The BIGGER upside, DT no longer becomes a need in the immediate future. Wyatt, Wooden, Brooks, Brinson have all played very well(relative to expectations) and look like a good core moving forward. If you don't add a DT, you'll need to address that in the draft. So you can justify this pick and use of draft capital as he would have 2.5 years of team control. It would give you more time to develop Brinson... who has looked very good. And you could probably part ways with Stackhouse who... I don't really see making a positive impact on this team. 3nd Rd pick+2027 5th for Sweat and a 2026 6th rd pick? 7-Jackson Powers-Johnson, OL, Raiders Hey, the last two are obvious. The Packers OL sucks, Jackson Powers-Johnson played on the OL... he didn't suck last year. He's fallen out of favor. He'd give the Packers a big, physical center. You could move Jenkins back to OG, let Jordan Morgan focus on playing OT... and let Aaron Banks wait for a chance to play when healthy or... just wait until they eat a big cap hit after this season, admitting their mistake. ~25M cap hit, ~20M dead cap next year. So sunken money. Haven't a clue what it'd cost to get him, but again with limited resources, if they think he can start, it would be trading a pick for a player on a rookie deal who could step in right now. Again, you need to address OL in the draft. This would just be using that pick to get a cheap player with a couple more years of team control. 8-David Njoku, TE, Browns Another guy on an expiring deal and bad team... with a young player replacing him. He's TE 2 in Cleveland right now behind a rookie from Bowling Green and has said he wants to finish his career in Cleveland... and Cleveland is reportedly looking to add talent(Why the hell they're looking to add players when they'll be using the 43M cap credit to put toward cutting Deshaun Watson after this year and are a bad team is confusing to me, but the Browns are gonna...well, their uniforms are brought to you by dude wipes. That's how the Browns are won. Named "the Browns," sponsored by something to wipe your ass and they moved on from Baker Mayfield when he was hurt just so they could reset the QB market. 6th-7th rd pick Others Rasul Douglas-Bring back a familiar face. He's a ballhawk. He's also physical and he's on a 1 year deal for Miami. He could likely be had for a conditional 7th. Alonte Taylor CB NO-Guy sounds like a slot CB to me. Also...not great this year, but the Saints don't have a very good front. They do play hard though. Dennis Allen may have been given Chicken Feces, but... at least the Chickens are trying hard. That's... really the minimum you should expect, but when competing for a top 5 pick, it's not bad). Conclusion-The Packers have 11 picks after trading away their next two 1st rd picks as well as a late 2027 pick. This is a Super Bowl or bust type of year, but I don't think they want to go into draft with 3-4 picks and without a 1st or 2nd rd pick. Especially with several FA's on their way out(though they could get some draft pick compensation as a result). IF you could get Woolen for a deal similar to the Titans recent trade of McCreary, I would do that. A 6th for Woolen and a 7th. Seattle has a lot of players to pay and he's struggled. These players are always traded for less than I think, so... mcCreary had been better, so a similar package makes sense. McCreary would have made more, but that ship has sailed. Sweat- I'd LOVE to add a young DT who can play the run like him... and who can collapse the pocket, helping the edge rushers and off ball LBers, but I wouldn't offer more than a 3rd. If you think he's the type of player you need to be able to get past run heavy teams like Philly and Det though...it may be worth it. Jackson Powers-Johnson -Cheap rookie contract and he played well last year. With Jenkins likely gone next year and hopefully Banks... save money and upgrade this year. Last year however, as a Center, Powers-Johnson was one of the better Centers in the league as a pass blocker and a run blocker. Moving Jenkins back to Guard, Powers-Johnson in at Center, that may be the trade that has the biggest impact. Any trade has to come with a better game plan on offense, a shift in ideology and more disciplined play, but this team is good enough to win a Super Bowl. They're also... more than capable of getting beaten by anybody and bowing out in the WC round. There is NO player out there that's going to make this team a Super Bowl players. We have the talent we need. Player for player, position for position, we're good enough save for some tweaks. That's what this is. None of these players are All Pro's(or aren't expected to be). But they could shore up some areas and when we figure our own problems out...could help. Just remember how bad the 2010 team looked early on when they fell to 6-6 or even the '23 team when we all thought we'd get a top 5 pick and instead put up nearly 50 on Dallas and was a FG away from beating SF. So as far away as they look now... they're not. As great as they looked vs Detroit... they weren't that great either. They're the 3rd or 4th best team in the NFC(Philly, Det, LAR...4th I'd say) and within reach of any of those 3 and bad enough to get run off the field by any of them. @LouisElyyou had some guys you wanted to see. I'd just thrown out some of the names I'd seen on the block, some of whom were connected to the Packers others just...rumored to be traded. I wouldn't be trading a guy like Sweat, but new regime, terrible team, maybe they want their picks back. I hate trading more picks, but if a a 3rd, 6th and 7th would get us Sweat, Powers-Johnson and Woolen, I'll go full Rams and go for it.

Men, Ben Sims would be AWESOME to have right now! Can you imagine how many times we could throw the ball 4 yards behind the LOS and have Sims, Musgrave and then a WR out there and completely catch NOBODY off guard, but lose yards on a play! Seriously... I'm building off this and making this a mini "things that are bugging you," thread. THAT... that is bugging the hell out of me. You can get the ball in the WRs hands in other ways. You can STILL run that play, but Jesus, what are you setting up? A fake where someone jumps a route? It's gonna work... or the next time the CB is just going to pick the ball off and go the other way with it. They're basically there on time as it is. Anyway, it sucks losing Sims. I get why they did it. They were concerned with McManus' injury and they just extended him and they didn't want to lose Havrisik. They were hoping for a draft pick for him. But now is the time to make the decision. I'll even allow that you couldn't predict Kraft would get hurt and you thought you had depth and weren't using Sims... though even then, Musgraves has had injury issues... I do feel... "better" that we have him to fill in. Kinda in the way I'd feel better if Parsons got hurt knowing we had LVN to fill in... which is to say a good back up but in no world is he stepping up and replacing what you lost. McManus is 1-5 from 40-49. Those have to be gimme's in the modern NFL. One was a block. Not his fault(two may have been blocks but I can only remember the Browns). Also a blocked PAT. Havrisik was in a groove. 61 yards. But maybe they don't have confidence in him and are worried about McManus re-injuring his quad? Only explanation. That and they were hoping to trade him... which means, they should probably just go with him. You get 8 players who can come back from IR. We've used 2 designated to returns on Jacob Monk and Marshawn Lloyd(any day now). Reed will get one... hopefully. That'd have been 4. So you'd have to be careful, but you get 2 more for the playoffs. I don't think it's a case of McManus worrying or looking over his shoulder. He's signed a contract. He'll get paid... and he'd be one of the first calls if another team needed one. He's just missed them.

Most importantly... in this context, they're not at ALL directed toward you. Good article... and those are just the facts. Writers use DRS and OAA and they have to choose what they rely on. I was SOLELY critiquing the metric, grades...however they arrived at it. Again, it was fair and I thought it was pretty clear they were worse this year. Last years team was incredible defensively... particularly with Bauers at 1B(you really talk about throwing guys over there, but you appreciate the impact a really good defender at 1B can make). I thought(just eye test) you could see some players regress a bit. Turang... still an outstanding 2B, but he played a little SS. Seemed like he was pressing. Didn't play great there. Also some errors or misplays I didn't see last year. Contreras, 3B as a position. Ortiz was outstanding last year. Durbin was awesome for what we expected, but I wouldn't say over the course of the year he was a great 3B, just great relative to expectations. Last year Adames was the "anchor" pulling our defense down per DRS and... that was another I thought was silly, but still, I thought maybe that was Ortiz getting to so many balls... as is the rule at 3rd, if you can get to it, it's yours. And it really hurt Adames who may be at his strongest going back in the hole, backhanding a ball and then firing it to 1B. I love what our defense looks like going forward. Almost every prospect SHOULD be able to handle their position defensively save for maybe Wilken, Adams, possibly Fischer if they're 3B. But they should be 1B/LF and Lara, Pratt, Quero, Made, those three at 1B... elite defense should be a staple of Brewers baseball for a while.

First, on this part... this is not the most mature response, but this is stupid. I know, I know... "the eye test" is a bad way to judge a player when you have data, but... if you watch every game like most of us on here do, does anyone truly believe Ortiz was a NEGATIVE defender? Ortiz is top ~10-15 in OAA... and I just watched him enough and I've seen other SS's. He's in that upper tier. I'll buy(barely) Chourio as he's still developing in the OF. He gets poor reads at times and doesn't know when to come in or play it safe(tends to play it safe). I think he's at his best in CF running down balls in the gap. I think it's easier to get a read on the ball. I'd even buy Collins. But Ortiz? As for the Gold Gloves, I don't want to say it's a good thing no Brewers won one, but... it kinda is. Gone are the days of a guy starting 28 games at 1B and being named the Gold Glove winner because he was a really good hitter. The players that won them deserved them.

I know this is all obviously a joke, but... do you think there's any chance we'd make that trade? I would REALLY be curious to see if we would. Take Ohtani with the promise of paying him 680M? Someone on here said the Dodgers reportedly recouped his whole contract in the first year with sponsorships or corporate deals(and I decided to just Google it so I didn't have to rely on "someone said.") https://www.si.com/mlb/dodgers/onsi/news/dodgers-made-back-shohei-ohtani-s-entire-700-million-contract-in-his-first-season-report I wonder how big that'd number be with the Brewers. Ohtani is THAT big in LA, but surely the Dodgers already had massive deals. Again, just curious what people think as we know this is not going to happen. Aside from a NTC and being the biggest star in the world and Melvin Hernandez on his way to be the Brewers next(and only) homegrown HOFer... we'd have to take that, right?

He looks like a great young prospect, but what made people really take notice of Made and now think Made is one of the ELITE prospects in the game? His exit velocity. Why was Misiorowski a top prospect. He threw 104 MPH, his stuff was absolutely filthy. Hernandez is a very mature pitcher, but... he's throwing 90-91, correct? And by all means, correct me if he took a jump and I missed it. I hope he adds some weight and matures and can throw in the mid 90s. He's only 19, so it's possible. And I know(or... assume) you're being a bit hyperbolic... but I think the reason he doesn't appear that high is because.. those levels aren't really results based. They're driven by stuff. I hope he becomes a crafty pitcher. I think being a RHP it'll be a bit tougher and his smaller frame(5'11 155 is... small). But maybe he's Freddy Peralta.

I loved Kenny Clark. I didn't think he was expendable, but I certainly thought and... still think that trade was a great trade. I thought this was likely to be Clark's last year in Green Bay given his cap hit. But I agree, losing Clark hurt. We've had time to make up for his run defense which... at least according to PFF is not great this year(though he's been a very good pass rusher). I believe Jones wanted a DT because every report from every team seems to come with that caveat. He wanted to trade with the Jets for Quinnen Williams and 2 1sts... but the Jets said they didn't' have the resources(they didn't want to pay him). Now even Williams is the subject of trade rumors and HE is rumored to be available for a Day2 pick and he's younger and playing at a much higher level than Clark. So I don't think Clark was going to get more than a 5th or later with his age and contract and I think he was likely playing his final year in Green Bay. There were reports the Packers tried to make the trade without Clark as it did leave us vulnerable to start the season, but Jones insisted. But if you believe Jones or the other rumors that seem to confirm that... I don't think it really matters. The Packers gave up 16 points to the Panthers. The defense has done it's job in every game but one. And even that game, they were dominant until ST's and a strip sack in the last 20 seconds of the half got the Cowboys back into the game. The problem is the offense. Carolina couldn't stop the Packers... penalties and a slow, methodical style of play cost the Packers that game. The run defense was bad... but this is on Love the OL, MLF. Most of the Packers struggles have been on that side of the ball.

I think it'll be Baldwin/Horton and then Durbin... And that's fine. Cubs lose a year of service time on Horton in that case... so that's something.

I agree with all of this.

That makes the decision to make Brinson a healthy scratch all the more confusing. Or to not go out and get Mike Pennel... a really effective run stuffer who just this past week asked for and got his release from the Bengals and who in the off-season said he wanted to retire a Packer. But sure, in game... I'm not complaining about the DL not stopping the run better. I'm saying this team should be good enough to overcome that. And they were on defense. 16 points. What did we have yesterday? A fumble in the Redzone, at least 1 turnover on downs, a pick when we were driving. That 2nd turnover on downs came just outside of the redzone I believe. No, the offense should be good enough to overcome that. If Carolina can dictate the pace of place IN Green Bay... I mean... that's ridiculous. You go out and get a dominant pass rusher and he's dominant exactly how you hoped he would, you pay your QB like a franchise QB... and he's mostly playing like you hope he would. And we're playing a slow, methodical game. It reminds me of the Packers under McCarthy when the Packers wouldn't get much offense going until they had to go tempo and put the game more in Rodgers hands and they'd get something going.

The whole plan with the OL seems to have backfired. MLF or Gutey... whoever was behind the decision, they went from a more athletic zone blocking scheme to wanting bigger, gap scheme with more bigger OL and it's... really not working out. Especially along the interior. That doesn't' really explain Jenkins. I don't think he's been quite as bad as you. I think he's been better than Myers, but that's also a really low standard. He was particularly bad yesterday. Derrick Brown is a nice player and all, but... shouldn't be enough to wreck your OL. DL... Brinson and Wooden were out by the end, but you just had a guy like Mike Pennel who has been a really good run stuffer, a guy who has said he wanted to come back to GB. He was just a FA last week. You have to know Stackhouse isn't... good yet. Maybe he will be. I don't think that's the case. I see now why Brinson was drafted ahead of him. But as frustrating as it was at times, the inability to stop them on that last drive, this was still about 90% on the offense. Whatever identify the Packers had on offense, they just lost in Kraft. The defense wasn't great yesterday, but... they held them to 16 points. They allowed Carolina to control the clock at times and have long drives, but that shouldn't be enough. I know the identify is supposed to be Jacobs and he's done his job, but all we've really done is gone to a more run heavy offense, but a less efficient offense after Love's 1st year starting when we seemingly started a transition from a zone scheme to a gap scheme. Jacobs is durable and he's worth what he's getting, but we're pretty predictable. He's not making guys miss, he's running through arm tackles and falling forward. But that's not much without hitting on the big plays and the big plays we're hitting on are either Kraft running for 60 yards or recently Watson coming down with a contested catch. This team has such swings that it's baffling to me. At least you can address the FA mistakes without huge hits after this season, but I'd rather see this team come out and try and establish the PASS first and then use the run game. I don't think we'll do that and I don't think the run game is going to be real effective vs Philly. But we'll see.

The Kraft injury is just brutal. I like Musgraves a lot. I think he's a nice TE, but Kraft was becoming one of the best TEs and he is just so physical after the catch. But more than that, with this identity they're trying to establish on offense... that doesn't make sense to me. This more slow, methodical offense, he was the guy who'd pick you up on 3rd and 10, just blast through a CB and pick up the 1st down. As for the Panthers trying to slow this game down... yes, that sure be their plan. And you should be good enough to not allow them to.

What does that even mean, "don't be a cheapskate?" LOL...how does that even play into the conversation? And I know exactly what you're talking about. The IMMEDIATE paragraph before Contreras comments are about how the Brewers have made... 0 offers. Haven't started discussions. But sure, it's "crystal clear" what he "mean." Other times like when he explicitly states he's open to, then... you really gotta read in between the lines, right?

Yup. It's that time of year. Time for people... mostly on Twitter("X" sounds like an adult website) yell for the Brewers to sign... Bichette or Tucker... "cheap" Mark Attanasio should open his wallet... etc... This year, I really don't care. It's not an indifference towards the Brewers, I'm pretty content with the exact team we have under team control next year. I'd LIKE to see if they could do something with Woodruff. I'd LIKE Kyle Finnegan. I'd LIKE Caleb Ferguson as a LHed reliever who gets GBs and soft contact. But... I really think you run it back with this exact team, you have Vaughn a full year, some guys who can fill in like Lara, maybe Mitchell is healthy... also be nice if someone like Pratt can force the issue, but even at SS, I think Joey Ortiz will be a 700+ OPS guy. His BABIP should be higher than .260 by about 40-50 points...70 points if he's lucky.

(This is a long post... and yes, many of mine are, but this one in particular because I feel pretty strongly about the risk/reward... which I get to at the end in the bolded part). Well... again, yes, I get injury is an issue... but by evoking Strasburg, you're adding... ~150M more on a contract for a pitcher with 10-years on his arm. So I thought that was a really bad comparison. -Very rare injury for a pitcher -Through his late 30s -Paying for what he's already done, not for what you're projecting him to do How about a Corey Kluber? He signed a 5 year extension with two TOs. AT the time it was 35M with 2 TOs. He went on to win a Cy Young, was a dominant pitcher... until the TO came up and he got hurt at the... but because he was still signed below market value, the Guardians got Emanuel Clause out of trading him. Incidentally, they signed him to a pre-arbitration deal as well...after serving a season long suspension in 2020 for PEDs and... that contract has also provided enormous surplus value as well. Now contracts are getting bigger so Misiorowski's will also get bigger(the Brewers revenue is also growing quite a bit with the 48% revenue share they get from MOST teams local revenues and TV deals, though there's some shady accounting and still major financial discrepancies... but the latter part is why it makes sense. If he's an ace and gets within 3 years of the Free Agent market, we'll be having the same conversation we're having about a catcher which is really... "we won't be able to afford him anyway," dressed up as "he doesn't want to sign a contract extension. As for the 50M, if you're assuming Misiorowski is a super 2... and I doubt he will, but he'll be going into 4 years of arbitration, not 3, he'll already have been named to an All-Star game and just as of now, he was one of the most overpowering pitchers in the post-season. In a year in which most of us didn't even think he would or should get called up. He pretty much held the pitching staff together and gave the Brewers a punchers chance vs the Dodgers after helping them finish the Cubs... it's not his fault we didn't decide to actually throw any punches vs the Dodgers. Ok, I guess when you said "I'd rather sign Made/Pena/Dinges," it read to me like we had to pick. But fine, we don't need to pick. I agree. I think when you have talent like Chourio, Made, Misiorowski, you sign as many of them as you can to pre-arbitration deals. It's not going to work out a lot of time, but signing him from 24-31 gives you his MOST valuable 8-year period and you're paying for the right to pick up the final two years at 30 and 31. It also enhances his value in a trade. I don't think TJ is a risk that is a big enough deterrent. In fact, I'd argue the risk of TJ is just as good of a reason to sign him as not. Pitchers are not only coming back from TJ at an extremely high rate. A 96% return to play rate for pitchers in their 20s and they're actually coming back and pitching longer and they're often adding velocity(though I don't have a number to quantify that). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6664469/?utm_source=chatgpt.com The other risk a shoulder surgery-That's a more significant risk. Though, even with the Capsule injury Woodruff had, players are coming back more and more from that. Ashby and Woodruff just in Milwaukee. The Thoracic outlet Surgery is an extreme example and pretty rare for pitchers in their prime. So sure, the INJURY that happened to Strasburg is a worse case scenario... but you have to see how you're REALLY limiting that risk by signing him his for years ~24-31 vs the 7 years Strasburg signed up for at 30 for his 31-37 seasons. Misiorowski has the best pure stuff of ANY player to don a Brewers Jersey. I think an 8/100M deal with 2TO is WELL worth it. Most realistically, I'd assume he'd want a 6 year deal with the 2 TOs, but those team options are extremely valuable. ----- Ultimately, I'm looking as Jackson Chourio-8 more years, Jesus Made-If he keeps developing, he'll be a part of the team Misiorowski's 3rd season in the league. Potentially the same with Pena, Adamczewski, Dinges, Adams, Wilken, Quero, Lara, Cooper Pratt, Fischer, Burke and then on the pitching side, Letson, Knoth, Hardin, whomever else we've developed by then. Maybe Alexander Mercedes the 2026 IFA who's already throwing 92-94 is a top 10 prospect in Baseball and a 22-23 year old phenom himself by then(that's just to make a point, but it's all about keeping this window with this group of players that I'M of the opinion... make up a once in a lifetime core and keeping them together for 5-6 years. Give me 4 guys who the franchise has conviction in, Jackson Chourio, Jesus Made, Luis Pena and Jacob Misiorowski... try and sign ALL FOUR of them to pre-arbitration contracts and if the worst happens and one of those players is a bust(or specific to this conversation has an injury that costs him his career, then you're getting your money back from his insurance policy. But if you're right, you've created so much excess value and you've kept a group of guys who could be not just stars, but MVP and CY Young players around a core of other really good hitters, this is your best shot to combat the Dodgers just going out and signing an extra ace or two in free agency and they should be about the same as the AAV of Yamamoto and Blake Snell at MOST in any one season.

This is why I post the link rather than taking one sentence out of a long article and provide zero context. As I remember it, he was talking about playing everyday and getting himself ready and trying to be the best, then after saying there hadn't been any conversations about a contract extension from the Brewers side(similar to past big names like Burnes at that point) he said "I'm not interested in that, I'm here playing my game, and I know my time is going to come." Not "interested in that," directly after they say they've(the Brewers) have made no offers or talks with him reads to ME like he's not interested in TALKING about it. Like he's interested in playing right now and worrying about right NOW. Especially when you consider he said both before that AND after that... pretty strongly, that he'd like to spend his entire career in Milwaukee. It also feels like it's easier to say... as a Brewers fan, 'well, what could we do? He didn't want to sign anyway,' when... he's been pretty public about it when... you don't make the effort to approach you with any offer.