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LOL...Fine! That'll mean we're in another series!

What the hell do we know? Mears looking dominant! Now GET A #######ING RUN!!!

Well...I'd argue they didn't have to. And they sure as **** do not have to go to Peralta.

It really better. I think Mears is gonna be a stud for us, but...this is NOT what I'd have done...

What the hell are we doing? Myers was the right move, but...why are you NOT putting Megill back out there?

Well...yeah, once you get back around to Turang and Chourio, but I'm talking about this inning...hopefully.

I wonder what the odds would be on that! I'm sure you could bet on Iassic Collins hitting a walk-off somewhere!

I think he has to. I have confidence in one of the vets putting us ahead here. Hopefully someone is on when Sanchez or Hoskins comes up(maybe it's irrational confidence, but they've been here and gotten big hits before).

Not quite that, but...it's following a similar script. Just a run here REALLY puts the pressure on the Mets as we get into the back 3rd of the game. Such a clean inning has mean Megill comes back out after we put one on the board here, right?

Oh, he'll get CRUSHED by the Twitter fans if they give up a run...and second guessed on ESPN among other places. But it's just asking a lot from the rook. And Megill is looking locked in.

Well...we'll see, but I'm happy to get 5 and 2X through the lineup from him and I like Megill coming in here. With Lindor coming up...I get it.

Without looking, I'd have said Longwell hit ~75% over his first few seasons. I guess because they seldom asked him to kick even 40+ his first year. 5 FA, 4 at 40-49, 1 at 50+?

Agreed...

That was exactly what I was thinking...but I'm guessing that's easier said than done.

He's not. 5 shutout, he did his job. 3rd time through...no need to run him back out there.

Yeah, I think that's it for Tobias...just an incredible outing. We GOTTA get something going here offensively. Starting it again with Turang?

I welcome Hoskins back. I think he'll be back to normal next year. And Turang smokes one...Iglessias with a Turang-like play(he could be one of those guys who replaces one of the roster spots as...I don't think people are looking at him as a .337 type hitter).

Turang and Chourio continuing their Molitor/Yount like '82 series right here!

I love Chenal. The only problem is the Chiefs are really using him a lot this year. He's playing on the Edge, he can lineup and play over the middle. He's as good of an athlete as Walker, but he's more physical. That's a lot to give up though as I think both Wicks and Doubs can be really good WRs. If I had to, I'd probably give up Doubs, but not Doubs and a 4th, I'm not sure why they gave up on Carr...I think he ends up with the Jets, but he has been remarkably consistent and healthy. I think we have to get a kicker unless Narveson just turns it around or they figure something out...but I don't know how common trading kickers is in the regular season. I remember a few before the season, but someone like Nick Folk would be an obvious target. A 40-year-old kicker on a team that's not competitive? No thoughts on Lawrence? Too far fetched?

*Move this to the Packers 2024 Season Thread if you think it's more appropriate there.

I didn't know if I should put this just in the Packers 2024 thread or make a new one. It'll heat up as the deadline comes. Hopefully not out of need due to injury, but that always plays some role. Kicker has been mentioned...OBVIOUSLY. But I just saw another really interesting one. Dexter Lawrence trade rumors. The Giants MAY be open to trading him(nothing from any legitimate source yet, so just speculation). I don't think this team has any other real needs as of now. Getting a kicker should be the priority. I'm not going to talk about Davante Adams or just any big name. Maybe Devin Lloyd is worth discussing. You'd have to assume the Jags are going to punt on the season if they lose another game and start 0-5 but Devin Lloyd may be a perfect fit and among the players the Jags look to move. He slides in as the MLB, Quay and Cooper on either side. Also creates a lot more mixing and matching similar to the Chiefs when they play with Chenal, Bolton and Tranquill. Chenal is listed as a starter, but they move him around, edge rusher or they have him rush up the middle. That could be Cooper as they ease him in. But IF Dexter Lawrence is traded this year(and I'm very skeptical a team would trade him) he'd likely be the best player to be traded since maybe Adams or Rodgers(I can't think of another player of that caliber in recent years and both were traded under unique circumstances). The contract is already incredibly cheap for the best IDL in the NFL, and really a guy who as a 3-4 NT was unprecedented as far as I can recall as a pass rusher. He's basically a combo of Kenny Clark at his best and what we've seen of Wyatt this year. Cons -I can't really think of any other than we gave Clark more than this, but that's a sunk cost. Lawrence is just better and it'd take a LOT of pressure off Clark. He hasn't played in a 4-3...I don't believe Only so much money to go around...but again, players of THIS caliber are rare. Zero need for the Giants to trade him and a team like KC may be inclined to give up 2 1sts+ as he's that good of a player. Pros As I said, he's the best all-around IDL. Hasn't played in a 3-4, but he's gotten a TON of pressures as a 0 Tech, so as a 3 technique in one gap, he'd be up there with Donald and JJ Watt in terms of dominant DL the last decade. From PFF when they ranked him the 11t best player overall in the NFL; Our DL could be overwhelming. A guy like him who commands constant double teams, Wyatt, Clark, Gary, LVN, Enagbare, Brooks, he'd make life that much easier for the rest. Put Gary/Lawrence/Clark/LVN out there with Quay/Cooper and then Jaire/Nixon/Stokes/Bullard/McKinney while rotating in Slaton, Wyatt(who probably plays 50% when he's healthy), Brooks and then Smith, Enagbare and I'd like to see more Wooden, but Hafley apparently doesn't see his value in this system thus far. He's SO dominant vs the run AND vs the pass, you're not having to mix and match. You could trade a guy like Slaton. You'd likely be looking at moving on from Kenny Clark unless his play REALLY picks up in the next year(~17M dead cap after 2025 vs 31M cap hit after next off-season). His contract FOR THE PACKERS would effectively be 4 years and ~56M. We'd likely find ourselves in the situation the Cardinals did with D-Hop where he'd want an extension and that's something we could accommodate in a year or two. Add two years for 60M or something along those lines. But in the meantime, he'd be a cheap cap hit for a team that has a lot of cap space. You're starting out with at least a 1st+ a day 2 pick, probably 2 1st rd picks+assets. But this would be the best DL the Packers have had since Reggie White...and he may be as good as Reggie for the Packers. Not that he'd have that type of impact to the franchise, but it'd be significant. It's wildly unrealistic, but...it's being thrown around and it's the first legitimate player I've seen that I thought would make sense for the Packers both in terms of the type of money he would require and the impact... I don't expect this to go anywhere and I think the Giants would be foolish to trade him. But if you can add draft assets....it's worth considering. A final Con, albeit one I really hope the Packers don't put too much weight on, but...you're hosting the draft. You don't want to go into this class with 4 picks. You've already traded a 7th for Willis(which was clearly worth it). Giving up your first would hurt...but you're lucky if you get one 1st rd pick of his caliber every decade, so it'd likely be worth it. An additional note, if we're talking about the Giants, Evan Neal is someone I'd definitely consider trading for. Just worth a flier. I think he's got talent and throwing him in at RG, where he's been playing, could be an upgrade. Or even have him work at OT, namely RT. But that's a bit of an afterthought.

Yup! If they won 82 games, we'd say, "this was a rebuilding year, lots of young talent, almost everyone back...good season." But they're 12 wins away!

Yeah, I agree they should all be available. I'm saying who I think would be the best players. Start with Meyers, then Hall, then maybe back to Megill, then Ashby, Koenig and if you have to extend Williams, then do it. But I'd be reticent to bring Ross, Payamps, Mears into the game.

I'd just run it back with Hoskins. He had a mediocre year, but a year removed from the ACL, I think he'll get back to where he was. He has an ~850 OPS for his career, .242/.353/.492 I think you're likely to get similar production out of all of them as a hitter and Hoskins is poor fielder, but he's a poor fielder at 1B. He wasn't bad enough to make too much of an effort to swap them out. Without Betts, Ohtani, Freeman in the lineup, is he likely to be substantially better than Hoskins or match his career year(he had a better line in 2020, but 60 games). I don't think we need to do more re-tooling than 2B/3B, the BPA to replace Adames and take over at 3B/2B. Honestly, we might be facing him in this round of the playoffs.

LOL...so why ask for thoughts?