You're talking about the trade then, and I'm talking about it now. That's why I said that it turned out to be a stinker, not was one at the time. Part of grading trades, at least in my opinion, is how the evaluation of the talent worked out in the end. That's how you ultimately evaluate a GM being a judge of talent. I very much disagree. Part of the attraction of trading for Linebrink was getting a pair of high draft picks if he walked. And if you're looking at the trade so far (instead of "2030"), what have Inman, Garrison and Thatcher done to make the deal a fleecing?