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Everything posted by naivin
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Very good move. No real downside...plenty of upside.
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This is just dumb. Personally, I give a rip what the order is, by the second or third week in the season its usually all messed up anyway. But, does this really take pressure off Gallardo? He's the best starter on the team and everyone knows it. Placing him in some different slot does little to relieve the pressure of him having to be the man. Whether he starts 1st or 5th, his expectations are higher than any of the other starter, and he knows it.
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I would agree some bias is being shown here...just not sure ESPN is the guilty party (in this case) however.
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2yr/$15M...I would say you've already lost it. You really wanna pay $15 million dollars for 1 season of pitching from a guy who has had both shoulder and elbow injuries, fresh off elbow surgery? I think people need to forget about the uniform this guy used to wear, or the team that drafted him. If this was anybody else, and the circumstances were identical would you even consider for 1 second offering him 2yrs/$15M?
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Regain value? How is that regaining value? That would be throwing good money after bad. If he requires elbow surgery, certainly he will not likely pitch at all this year, and you have no idea what you are gonna get after that. He has had the double whammy of shoulder and elbow. If he wants to sign a deal like Kerry Wood or Mark Prior did after surgery...something in the area of $1 millon per year (would obviously need to be a 2-year deal), that's fine. Anything more than that guaranteed would be insanity.
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Sheets watch (closed in deference to new thread)
naivin replied to yoshii8's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
That's fine, but you can't just pretend what happened after the AS break didn't happen. Had he not had the elbow problem, clearly he would have a uniform by now, and that probably would be a steal. But he did have the elbow problem (and by most accounts, still does), to go along with the past shoulder problem. That is not a good combination. Considering that a few years ago Ken Griffey was considered the best player in baseball, I think a 3-yr deal for 21-27 million would be a real steal...Doesn't work that way. A lot of time has passed, and a lot has happened since then. -
The guy may have saved the season last year when he was able to take a two out walk in front of Braun's grand slam against the Pirates.
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Those questions are silly. They could apply to any team. 1. How does Yovanni Gallardo hold up after only 134 MLB IP the last 2 years? 2. How long before Mannay Parra and Prince Fielder get into it again? 3. Who plays SS when JJ hardy gets hurt? 4. How does Trevor Hoffman pitch at the end of his career? 5. What do the Brewers do when the 3B duo is hitting .240 in the middle of June? 5a. What do the Brewers do when the 2B duo is hitting .240 in the middle of June? BTW, in answer to your questions... 1. There is no reason to necessarily expect Dempster can't handle the load again. 2. Who cares? 3. I assume Aarobn Miles could handle 3B for a couple weeks. 4. Legitimate question, but again, no reason to think he won't handle it just fine. The guy has pitched plenty of innings in both minors and majors. 5. Maybe nothing. If they are catching the ball, they have plenty of offense everywhere else that it might not matter much.
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Grasp for whatever straws you wish, but it looks as if the Cubs' roster this year shapes up at least as good as last year, and possibly better. Obviously, the games need to be played, but there is little to indocate they do not have talent and depth equal to teh team that won 97 games last year. To suggest that Gregg, Bradley, and Miles don't adequately cover the loss of Wood, Edmonds, DeRosa, and Pie seems like wishful thinking at best. From where I'm sitting, the gap between the Cubs and Brewers seems to be getting wider, not smaller.
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Either way. Gone are Edmonds, Pie, and DeRosa, basically replaced by Bradley and Miles. For this season, that is at worst a wash, and more likely an upgrade.
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Pie wasn't good either. Plus both Bradley and Miles are switch hitters which is big for a team that need additional left handed hitting. Gregg isn't replacing Wood, Marmol is...that's likely to be an upgrade. That hurts them in that Marmol was great in his role where Lou would use him basically wherever he needed him, but Gregg is more of a replacement for Bob Howry. That's an obvious upgrade. Their bullpen is certainly not worse, and potentially better... Smardzija, Gregg, Marmol >(probably) Marmol, Howry, Wood I wouldn't argue very vehimently that they have gotten better, but if they've moved in any direction, I would say its in the direction of improvement. Age could become a factor, but they certainly haven't lost depth.
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How do you figure? They basically lost DeRosa, Pie, and Wood, and replaced them with Miles, Bradley and Gregg. I might even suggest they have gotten better (Harden is obviously an open question at this point.).
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Who cares if the Cubs haven't improved themselves...they finished with the best record in the NL by far. Have they gotten worse? Not likely. Granted they seized up in the playoffs, but it is hard to conclude that is a function of talent. A better question will be have the Brewers improved themselves enough to compete with the Cubs for the division? Doesn't seem so.
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Sheets watch (closed in deference to new thread)
naivin replied to yoshii8's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
Well, let's put it this way, if Gallardo and Parra aren't they guys, the Brewers are cooked. No doubt IP will be something that needs to be watched with Gallardo, but from everything we've seen, the guy has tremendous stuff, and the make up of a 10 year veteran. Parra certainly wore down at the end of last year, but appears to have the stuff and theoretically should be able to pitch more effective innings this year. I guess we'll see. I'd prefer to have a stud in front of them, but it sure doesn't look like that's going to happen, so the only alternative is to try to develop some depth behind them (although I guess I'm not sure where that is gonna come from either). -
I agree.
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Sheets watch (closed in deference to new thread)
naivin replied to yoshii8's topic in Milwaukee Brewers Talk
If that is a reasonable expectation, and 2/$20M would get it done, I'd probably take it too. Again though, people need to ask themselves why, if that is indeed a reasonable expectation, why he is not already a Cub, Yankee, White Sox, Red Sox, etc...Teams with reasonable, but not exceptional pitching depth that could cover the extra innings, World Series aspirations, and money to burn. Draft pick compensation is a factor I know, but if those teams don't seem willing to take the risk, why would the Brewers...a team with little pitching depth and little money to spare? -
For the record, I'm guessing most would not necessarily consider a part-time player, as Weeks was post-Durham to be among the best leadoff hitters in the NL. Beyond that, Ray Durham performed better than Weeks in both August and September, thusly I suppose ranking him even higher among NL leadoff hitters.
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No, your right. I was strictly referencing his total avg. floundered in that range (.228) the rest of the year. Fact remains, he was not starting to hit when they acquired Durham, although he did hit better after they acquired him
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I hope not...just don't see a lot of moves to be made out there. Not much pitching on the FA market, and I am pessemistic about their ability to acquire any via trade. If you see something I don't, please share. Some guys will be moved to be sure, but obviously Jake Peavey ain't coming to Milwaukee in exchange for Rickie Weeks.
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Huh? On June 30th Weeks had and AVG of .215 and an OBP of .325. The day they acquired Ray Durham (7/20), his average was .216 and OBP was .326. During that stretch he bottomed ot at .207 and peaked at .218. How was he just starting to hit? He bumped his average up to .226 after a 3-4 game on 7/23 and basically floundered there the rest of the year.
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Looking over this thread, 'ifs' and 'buts' seem to be Rickie Weeks' strongest attributes as a player. Definitely a strong candidate for the MHP award...Most Hypothetical Player. I say that as someone who would like nothong more than to see him succeed, but is finiding it increasingly difficult to see that happening.
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I agree with this on an overall basis. Looking around the league, especially 90 miles south of us, I just don't see the team as presently constructed doing a whole lot. Given a choice between SP and an upgrade to 2B, by all means I'll take the pitching. It is starting to look as if that is not going to happen however. If it doesn't, you need to improve elsewhere, like 2B or 3B. Personally, even if they do manage to fortify the rotation, if you want to be a playoff contender, I think you can live with Weeks or Hall/Lamb, but not both. Think about it, last year we had CC and Sheets (sort of) in the rotation, and acquiring Durham was still necessary to make the playoffs. Now the rotation has certainly taken a step back, and seemingly so has 2B.
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All the more reason to upgrade defensively at 2B. Prince obviously not going anywhere this year. The trade off between his bat and bad defense is worth it. With Weeks...not so much.
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If you say so. If you want to use those values, I guess we should make it simple and just bring back Ray Durham since he was significantly higher than both. But wait, his projections aren't as good. Man I'm getting confused...Its hard to keep straight the arguments for which these statistics and projections are relevant and those they aren't.
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Shown by whom? Certainly not Rickie Weeks. Even if you accept him as average offensively (I don't), defensively he is certainly below average. Average + Below average = Below average.