Whether before or after his injury, John never struck out more than 138 batters in a season. By itself, that's not a reason to vote against a guy, but it is hard not to notice a stat like that when you're talking about Hall of Famers. The Ks wouldn't stop me, I remember John for the last half of his career, I do recall how well he pitched for the Dodgers and the Yankees - he had a great run. I tried to show both sides, I did point out John's excellent control and his low HR allowed in comparison to the elected Hall of Famers, I also mentioned his winning percentage. I did point out the trade involving Dick Allen, but I will never use a thing like that to sway me on a player's Hall of Fame credentials, if I did, I'd have to have to score points for Doyle Alexander and Larry Andersen. My problem with Tommy John is the late phase of his career. I remember him as a man who pulled on a Madison Muskies uniform, after he'd been shown the door by the Angels. I remember him as the guy who hung on as long as he possibly could, trying to get to 300 wins - which is the sort of thing that turns me off - especially when you don't wind up getting there. I like him, I'll be very happy for him if he gets elected, but I wouldn't vote for him. There are a lot of nice stats, he certainly deserves the consideration he's been given, but I would vote no. I am glad JBriggs is presenting a case for the yes voters, that's the point here, I'm not here to tell everyone what they should think, I'm just trying to frame the discussion and offer my own conclusion.