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It doesn't take long for that to happen, fair or not. I hope the org doesn't give up on him before he at least has 1 full healthy season of ABs. He's the only potential regular 30+HR power bat in the system aside from maybe Burke in my view. This team only has a few "big" guys. Luke Adams gets overlooked, but maybe he emerges as that type of guy, or possibly Bitonti or Fischer. But for now, I'm fixed on Wilken and Burke.
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I hold out hope that Wilken has a summer that forces everyone to account for him in respect to future IF arrangements. Fluke injuries and K's have not served him well. A future with Burke and Wilken as a corner power hitting tandem for several years would be largely unprecedented for MIL. And Turang, Pratt, Made, Pena can compete for the middle. More realistically, somebody is going to get traded out of that bunch regardless of how Wilken pans out.
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KC is about to lead the league in infield squib hits
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If the shoe was on the other foot, and everything else being equal, would the Brewers be expecting to receive 3 major league level pitchers in return? Granted, they are relievers currently, but Ash and Gas have (or had?) projections of being starters. The Brewers would probably get something like a utility player, a nominal arm and maybe a red chip prospect. If Duran is the most viable trade target available to add some (not much) offensive punch, then explore it, But, maybe try to deal from some prospect depth instead of 3 BP arms all at once. And, no way should Peralta be part of the deal. I have zero expectations that Woody stays healthy all year. Trading Peralta for a bat and then losing Woody would essentially nullify the gain in offense in my view. They need to upgrade either Ortiz or Perk. Personally, I would lean towards the latter and keep the gold glove-esque defense at SS. Maybe trading for Duran is a path towards that. The possibility was covered a few weeks ago when Chuck Freimund did a crossover "Locked On..." with the Red Sox channel on Youtube. (not sure if linking to other content is OK here??)
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When I reemerged from a decade's long disinterest / boycott of MLB, the Brewers had just traded Hader. The stars on the horizon I kept hearing about were Tyler Black and Mitchell. Still waiting for either to live up to the hype, and expecting both to wash out.
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Dude has had some crazy bad luck. Wonder how he managed to stay mostly healthy through all his other levels of ball. The thought from various posts the past year seems to be that Type 1 leads to being more fragile, less durable. If that is medically accurate, one assumes the Brewers would have known that prior to drafting him. Maybe they gambled on his health holding up regardless.
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No, The Brewers' Payroll Is Not A Problem
Turning2 replied to Frisbee Slider's topic in Brewer Fanatic Front Page News
Yep, offseason fluff. But it generates subject matter for second hand media like BF and countless other amateur sites and YouTube channels. I enjoy having something to read, even if 99% is just dudes who created their own outlets without any official MLB contacts to quote. It’s a cottage industry. -
As Braun descended, Yelli rose. It's time for them to acquire someone for Yeli to pass the baton to as he rides out the last of his contract... and yeah, it just might cost a good bundle during that transition. With any luck, maybe they could persuade Yelich to waive the no trade if the trading partner and conditions were right in 2028. Personally, I believe adding another proven power bat alongside Yeli would do wonders for this team. Having two guys in the lineup providing a mutual protection situation is a must. Chourio is great, but he's probably not the new Yeli. Maybe another 2-3 years we will see him become a regular 28-35 HR type power bat. Until then, they have to buy another big bat if they want to be taken seriously. Speed and defense make for fun, everyday small ball W's in the regular season. But it's quite clear that you are highly unlikely to win a championship with that recipe.
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Yes, Bader isn't necessarily the guy, just tossing out an example. I heard The Red Sox guys discussed on a Locked On Brewers crossover episode with the Boston host last week. One of them, can't remember which, sounded just like what the Brewers don't need more of - speed, defense, meh offense.
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What would you consider a "cost-controlled bat" specific player by name wise? I think a guy like Harrison Bader would be an improvement over Perkins but he's not a stand alone, put the team on his back, difference maker either.
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So, there is room for improvement. LOL. Third most feels a bit deceptive. That lineup never scared anyone except during a couple of hot streaks. It limped along at the end when it mattered the most. Regardless, they scored what they scored. I was entertained. But they still need another solid bat to go along with young guys continuing to improve.
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They can't live with an offensive black hole at both SS and CF. And they can't count on Mitchell. Either Ortiz or Perk have to be upgraded stellar defense be damned. I think they can win with either of those as an everyday player, but not both. If I had to do either or, I'd keep Ortiz at SS and pursue an OF with more to bring to the plate. But I'm an old SS, so perhaps I'm biased in valuing excellent defense at the position.
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It seems we all share the same general opinion of Collins - older guy who probably hit his ceiling, had a career year. Solid piece, if probably not a preferred OF starter. Would love to be wrong though. I'd be content if he became a .260ish, 12-15 HR type guy. Overall, I don't think they can afford to be fielding both Collins and Perkins on a regular basis though. One or the other, possibly both, has to be a back up. Of course, some of that hinges upon the great unknown of Mitchell's availability for the entire season. That's a gamble I don't think they should take. That means either Collis or Perk probably get bounced.
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My point is the current economic/competitive imbalance results in forcing small market teams into a relatively perpetual "carrot on a stick" operational mode. The organizations know their hands are tied so they market their farm systems. I would wager Dodger, Yankee, Mets, Phillies fans are much less excited for the arrival of their prospects year after year than Brewer fans because their orgs don't have to hype their farms system like MIL has to. They do have an intriguing group of prospects no doubt. I'm excited about many of them. But they won't all turn into MLB caliber players let alone star players. Teams like MIL need the planets align and have 7-8 young guys all be difference makers at the same time before MIL can't afford them.
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They are a franchise that relies on constantly selling fans on future prospects. The next wave of marketable optimism arrives in 2027/28 depending on the lockout. They aren't going to tie up big money making bold moves for 2026 with the potential lockout and plenty of prospects to keep fans drunk on hopium. In a couple years, Pratt, Made, Wilken, Burke, Adams will be up and then we will say, "well, they're young, they did pretty good this year considering.... just wait until they mature". By that time, most of the current young guys we're waiting to reach their prime (Turang, Frelick, Contreras, Durbin) will be moving on, and the Groundhog Day cycle starts anew. It's not the management's fault. Blame MLB and the Players' Union for this garbage.
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They can’t go into 2026 with two glove only pieces in the lineup. Either Ortiz or Perkins has to be upgraded. Both are special talents on defense, but you just will continue to come up short with two glaringly weak hitters in the regular lineup. I expect nothing from Mitchell, and hope for the best with him. Any contribution from him is gravy.
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Burke looks like the prize out of that. Hope it translates to the bigs when he arrives. DL Hall did provide some quality long, middle inning relief, and with so many other starting arms, I'd be fine if that was his role.
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I may catch an inning or two, but generally, I really couldn't care less. Baseball is a sham competition once the small market teams are duly eliminated. Best thing might be total domination by the Dodgers to show just how silly the unlevel playing field truly is. I would rather watch Brewers prospects in the AZ Fall League if I had access to it.
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I want a proven power hitter in his prime or no deal. That probably means … no deal, and that’s fine. They have too much youth already, and several solid prospects on the farm, don’t really need more multiple prospects.
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Brewers (Quintana) vs Dodgers (Ohtani): 10/17/25, 7:38pm
Turning2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
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Brewers (Quintana) vs Dodgers (Ohtani): 10/17/25, 7:38pm
Turning2 replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Archived Game Threads
Quintana needs to put somebody on their can. They are way too comfortable in the box. -
Showing himself to be a big time player in the big games no doubt.
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That's the point, the teams aren't losing money. If the fans stopped spending money, it would force change. If the Marlins' only revenue source was from revenue sharing and absolutely zero from tickets, merch, concessions etc, they would fold as a team. MLB INC wouldn't allow the embarrassment of no fans in the stands for long, and the big market ownerships would eventually balk at sharing revenue with them. I know that's all pipe dream stuff, but that's the only solution. It would require fans getting balkanized in unison, which will never happen.
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There is only one fix to this. But enough fans won't do what is necessary. I got tired of the MLB economics even before the nightmare of the modern CBA's. I turned my back on MLB around the late 80's. Only saw passing headlines about the Brewers and state of baseball. Totally missed the other two NLCS series. Couldn't care less. I drew my line in the sand. Nothing changed. It actually got worse. I finally decided, if you can't beat them, might as well join them enough to enjoy the game again - that was just after the Hader trade I started following again. Imagine if millions of small market fans could muster the same determination all at the same time for even just a few years let alone decades. The big markets depend on the small market fans to fuel this nonsense. If small market teams went bankrupt from fan disinterest, it would leave MLB with about 7-8 teams. There is no way they make the exorbitant, inequitable revenues in that model that they do now on the backs of small market fans.
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This team has forgotten its identity as a small ball outfit that works counts, steals bases. All that team speed is being wasted.
