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After reading a bit further, I've seen a couple MLB torn hamstrings where it took 6-8 months (Charlie Morton, 2016, late April), and where it only took 2 months (Hunter Pence, 2016, early June). I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes out from the tests.

So, from what I've been reading, a full tear generally takes 6-10 weeks to recover from after surgery. Considering the need to work back into professional baseball form after that, I would guess he could be out 3-4 months if it's a full tear. I think for football they end up being season ending injuries when it's a full tear due to the shorter season.

one would hope that the team's proprietary analytics give a bit better detail than the broadcast matchups, but that said, I think they should only be used when deciding between 2 comparable players for the most part.

Even though the starting pitching hasn't been able to pass 6 innings yet, and we've had an extra inning game, none of the BP arms, especially the prime arms of Hader and Knebel seem like they've been overworked in particular. The Brewers have been able to use their lesser relievers in low leverage situations to eat up innings, and have been able to spread out the other innings around the several serviceable arms in the pen. Gives me hope that if we can even get 5 innings out of SP, there are enough arms to spread the innings out in the BP without burning any individual out like has sometimes occurred in previous seasons, where we only had a couple really credible RPs.

I'll grant you Chris Narveson, but those other 2 really were as bad of pitchers as some people have made it out that most of the starters for the Brewers will be this year. I won't guarantee that Chacin will end the year under 5.00 ERA, but I would be pretty surprised if he has as bad a year as those guys turned in for their Brewer careers.

Luckily for Braun he's still got his wife and his money, and has only had to suffer more booing than before, and a half a year suspension in a season that he was battling some injuries anyways. Somewhat ironically, he got married the offseason after the suspension. I'm in the camp of, disappointed that he used, disappointed at how he handled the press conference, etc. But, he offered a) a well crafted and spoken, or b) a heartfelt - apology. He's seemingly done the right things in the time since, so I'm not going to hold it against him as a fan the rest of his life, and of course hope he continues being a good player for the Brewers. Not going to say I've "forgiven" him, as he didn't do anything to me personally, so what is there even to forgive?

If it's players on the field doing the sign stealing, more power to them. If the organization is hacking into computers and using video cameras from the seating and whatever, that's another story.

On the occasional ABs where there are doubled the throws to first as there are pitches and the runner isn't even that much of a base stealer... I start wanting to boo too... even when it's a Brewer pitcher... (but I don't, since i'm not a booer)

I think there is something to them, but if you're determining when to pinch hit or set a lineup, it shouldn't be the first thing looked at. But, if we are comparing which of the three second basemen on the team to start on a given day, and one of them is 10/20 with 2 HR against the starting pitcher, might as well go with them. Now, if someone was to try to pinch hit for Christian Yelich with Eric Sogard because of a small sample matchup, that would be a foolish move.

Ah, good point that he wasn't on the 40-man prior.

So, how does making the OD roster impact the opt out? I assume it's still in play? It would be a pretty crappy move to have a guy on opening day, and then immediately option him to remove his opt out.

The thought behind trading Santana was that we would get an upgrade at another position, notably starting pitching. One of those LF could play passable defense at RF, but they could not start 30 games on the mound. I would gladly lose our depth at MLB OFs if we could have received a good, young starting pitcher for Santana. I'm sure Stearns would have loved that too, but unfortunately the market for corner OF dried up, and we are in the situation we're in. At the end of the day, "odd" roster and all, we are a talented team that should compete for the playoffs. I am very excited to get the season going after a long off-season. Not to mention the fact that Santana, while a valuable hitter, does not fit the way Stearns is remaking the lineup. You don't acquire Yelich and Cain, two high-contact, low strikeout guys, and stick with the opposite in Santana. I have a feeling there will eventually be a market for Santana. Hopefully he starts hot, and that market develops further. I don't necessarily think that Stearns acquired Yelich and Cain with the opinion that he wants hitters like them in every spot of the lineup. They are great hitters, and they have instantly made the top of the lineup incredible, but they aren't quite the mashers that you would want lower in the lineup. Though Santana does have high K rate, he also has a very good OBP, and loads of power. I think the fact that he wasn't just traded for whatever they could get is not only indicative of a weak market for corner OF this offseason, but also that Stearns sees a lot of value in having him in the lineup. With that said, he is still the most tradeable of the MLB outfielders, so I do think he will move on at some point, and Phillips will get his shot, but the market has to heat up first.

I would think that general stat includes AL teams with the DH, and pitchers are PH for regularly in the end of the game anyways, so I would think that changing the pitcher to the 8th spot would not really impact the # of 2 outs, no one on situations that come up for the #8.

I like Corey Hart, but Geoff Jenkins was a good player for the Brewers for a decade, and was arguably the face of the franchise for a good chunk of that. Corey Hart was a good player for the brewers for about 5-6 years. Anyone saying Jenkins isn't worthy of being honored by the Brewers is doing him a disservice.

It would be mostly about his arm, but also, he just hasn't played the spot. Additionally, although he is an above average defender in LF, he's certainly not "Lorenzo Cain" level of above average, and he was definitely below average CF. I think he would clearly be an upgrade defensively in RF over Braun or Santana, but either way you're going to have a below average defender in an outfield slot. If you put Yelich in RF though, there is a possibility that he ends up as average at best there, and you end up with average or below defense in 2 outfield spots, rather than just one. That's why people are saying it would be a waste to put him there.

RobDeer 45, I'm impressed that you're predicting a rainout that ends up not having any implications at the end of the year and doesn't get made up! 2018 Brewers Season Predictions Win-Loss Record: 84-78 Playoffs (Yes, No): No Highest Playoff Level Achieved: None All Star Game Representative(s): Cain Offensive Player of the Year: Yelich Pitcher of the Year: Hader Most Surprising Player: Woodruff Most Disappointing Player: Knebel

But the main reason they can't go to 110 is because of previous bad financial decisions. They're still paying guys like Garza, whom they never should have signed in the first place, and Ramirez, whom they had no business keeping after 2012 under the circumstances (they clearly needed to rebuild, he was aging, and his salary was going way up every year). All they're saying is that they're going to stop making bad decisions like that. It won't pay off for years, but it will eventually. I don't know about you, but I still plan to be a Brewer fan 5 years from now (even though they didn't sign the great Alex Cobb) and I'm glad they're thinking that far ahead, even as they try to compete this year. I was told defered money saves teams money. Now I'm being told we are broke because defered money? Something doesn't add up. (Not saying its your stance luke) Deferred money is tricky balance. Clearly, in the short term it keeps some payroll flexibility available. But, it has to get paid sometime, and when the bill hits it's taking away down the road... when the player is no longer with the team. I think they have $10m in deferred salaries this year when I looked a few days ago.

You forgot that now he gets to pitch against the Rays a few games a year, and they were something like #25 offense last year, and might be worse this year.

I don't see where anyone has said that they want Wade Miley to pitch every 5 days and put up a 5+ ERA for most of the year for the Brewers. I have seen people say that if he has a good spring, and the Brewers management decides he's the #5 guy, they will be various degrees of ok with that decision. Personally, if they chose to go with Miley, I will be ok with that, but I hope he gets a short leash. Guerra could have a slightly longer leash. If they go with Woodruff, and/or other young guys out of the gate, then the leash needs to be long.

kfizz, the Brewers can't realistically trade Cain until 2020 due to no trade protections.

I guess I might be an odd sort of fan. I can respect people's passion, including yours, and I certainly get excited when something good happens for a team I like (mainly the Brewers), and am disappointed when things don't turn out as I hope. But, I don't think I'll ever be able to understand a mindset of getting literally angry over a team's results and/or roster management.

Theoretically, if you had a starting 8, 4 rotation, and 2 bullpen guys with 2 WAR each, that would be about a .500 team. WAR of course oversimplifies things a little bit too much for that to really be true, but it does go to show that if you can get a just a few star (4 war+) level performances in a year, you can still be in contention, even with weakness elsewhere.

A few things: 1. And That, when I looked at BR, Wade Miley's 2017 listed a -0.2, so technically that's a negative WAR. I think he has a legitimate chance to be better than that, but will he be even close to Cobb this year? Highly unlikely. But, if he get's the #5 out of camp, I'm not going to complain, as long as he's got a short leash. 2. TJseven7, I really like your digging and your 1.1 run differential theory. You just come across as unreasonably angry and personally impacted over not getting Cobb, which colors most people's readings of your arguments in this thread. 3. Here's the link to the full explanation https://www.baseball-reference.com/about/war_explained.shtml A team of replacement players would be expected to win around 48 games.

I will grant you Tanner Roak and Jose Quintana being competitive with the upper end of our current rotation, but I will not grant you Rich Hill...

The Brewers are still paying Aramis Ramirez and Kyle Lohse this year apparently. Kyle Lohse's deferred money was another reminder to Attanasio not to spend money on FA pitchers!