I don't think it's sour grapes. It's people on two sides of this argument who have a different perspective on the team and how to value players (and their legacies), and both sides can be blind to points the other tries to make. My wife and Father-in-law were very pro-Favre early on. When I had heard how the fans were treating Aaron Rodgers in his first Training Camp as the starter (booing, cursing, treatening to fight him), I marched down to Pro Shop and bought a #12 jersey (and I hate paying full price for anything ). He was the annoited QB of my team, and that's who I was going to support. To me, the people that treated Rodgers so poorly had no business being Packer fans. It's one thing to think that Favre got screwed, it's another thing entirely to spew your hate on the new guy who had nothing to do with the situation. So we got a lot of laughs sitting at games that season, me in my #12 jersey and my wife in her #4. Both sides have, for the most part, moved on and reconciled. Some, like my wife, have finally seen the light. To address your points above: #1 - Favre DID quit. He had a hissy fit that the Packers didn't sign Randy Moss as a FA (the 2nd failed attempt to acquire Moss in 2 years). It was a knee-jerk, emotional decision on his part. He announced his retirement only like a day or two after Moss re-signed with the Pats. He was really upset and didn't think it all the way through. But it provided an opportunity for TT/MM to do what they probably really wanted to do - move on from Favre, who was tending to take even more chances on the field (who the heck was he even trying to throw that ball to in OT in the NFCCG anyways?). #2 - Technically Favre didn't leave. He was traded, which, with the benefit of hindsight, was 100% the right thing to do. Many people forget that Rodgers was entering the 4th year of his rookie contract (a 5 year deal). If they would have let Favre back in at that point, we're not talking about how that delayed the Aaron Rodgers era by a year or two. We're most likely talking about how a decision to bring back Favre led to there never being an Aaron Rodgers era in Green Bay. Heck, maybe he would have been significantly disgruntled himself to have signed with the QB-starved Vikings before the 2009 season. That is not a world I want to live in. Also, without the Favre trade, there is no Clay Matthews in Green Bay. The draft pick they received back the Jets was used to trade back into the first round of the 2009 draft to select Matthews. They almost certainly don't end up with Matthews without trading Favre, and almost certainly don't win the Super Bowl in 2010 (or even make the playoffs) without Matthews having a defensive player of the year-type season. Now, as far as "crimes" go, I'm not sure why Favre would even be mentioned with Rose & Braun. Favre was guilty of making a premature decision, trying to undo it, and then threw a fit trying to get himself released. He did more damage to his own legacy than to his team.