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Wow. Swansea pull one out at the Emirates today. Good thing for goal line technology because looking at that live I didn't think there was any chance that it went in. Then Kevin Friend signals a goal after looking at his watch, Arsenal players argue and he just points at his watch with a look on his face that says "Yeah, I can't believe it went in either but the goal line technology says it did, so it's a goal." Then they showed the replay and it clearly did go in. Hell of a win for Swansea today and now only 2 points out of a Europa League berth.

The Brewers got really lucky there because Parra reached in to go after that. Once that happens I'm pretty sure it's a play on. Edit: Not that it matters now.

I don't see the Giants as a fit for Gomez even if they did have the pieces, which I don't believe they do. They already have Aoki, Pagan, Maxwell, Blanco and Pence will be coming back. That isn't great but it's not a huge need either. I would see them more as a fit for Ramirez if McGehee continues to be horrible.

Do you want me to put "Cubs" over the Brewers lineup and "Brewers" over the Cubs lineup? Because I'll do it. I have that power.

The Brewers are 9-21. We're already 13.5 games back in the division a little over a month into the season. We're already 6.5 back of the final wildcard spot and that's with teams with a ton of talent like Washington still playing .500 ball. I am highly concerned with people that think "it's still early" and "we can come back" and "what about the fans coming to the park?" The losses in fans coming to the park is offset by getting rid of bigger salary players. As far as Melvin finding equal value for these players. I think he did a good job in getting value for Gallardo. Don't really want him to remain GM but if he's allowed to trade players and look for the highest upside prospects he can get, I think he'll do a decent job. Why the hell are you talking about Melvin and draft picks. HE DOESN'T DRAFT PLAYERS! We now have a new scouting director who had success here and then took that success to Arizona where he also had success. This team has never drawn less than 20,992 fans per game at Miller Park. That was a 94 loss season that came right after a 106 loss season. But like I said earlier, getting rid of higher priced players and lowering the payroll will offset any loss of revenue from less fans showing up. As far as where it leaves the franchise. Not wallowing away in mediocrity? Yeah we'll suck but at least the fans will have some hope that we won't just continue in an endless cycle of mediocrity.

Lineups Cubs Dexter Fowler CF Kris Bryant 3B Anthony Rizzo 1B Miguel Montero C Jorge Soler RF Starlin Castro SS Chris Coghlan LF Travis Wood LHP Addison Russell 2B Brewers Jean Segura SS Hector Gómez 2B Ryan Braun RF Adam Lind 1B Khris Davis LF Gerardo Parra CF Martín Maldonado C Elián Herrera 3B Kyle Lohse RHP

Well Burnley got the win they needed but other results mean they have been relegated. QPR will be relegated with a loss or a draw in any of their remaining games. Leicester get a huge win against Southampton and are now 3 points clear of relegation. Hull now in the bottom 3 with their loss to Burnley. Newcastle managed to salvage a point against West Brom. Looks like the current bottom 3 might be the final bottom 3 with Burnley already down and QPR down with anything but a win it comes down to Hull who has Spurs and United to close the season. The only thing that might save Hull is a win and their goal differential being better than everyone but Leicester.

Congrats to Bournemouth and Watford on their promotion to the Premier League! One of Norwich City, Middlesbrough, Brentford and Ipswich Town will join them. The Premier League title has already been determined but the relegation battle is really heating up. Burnley must win their last 3 games. QPR likely needs to do the same as even 2 wins and a draw only gets them to 34 points which is the point total that currently keeps a team out of the relegation zone. Sunderland has an advantage because they've played one less game than the rest of their relegation rivals but they have a brutal schedule remaining. 3 road games against Everton, Arsenal and Chelsea and a home game with relegation rival Leicester City. Perhaps Chelsea play a bunch of subs since they've already won the title and Arsenal may have nothing to play for by the time they matchup with Sunderland. That Leicester City game is almost a must win though or at the very least can't lose. Leicester has an interesting schedule. You know Southampton is probably fuming after their loss to Sunderland which knocked them out of the Europa League as the standings currently sit but after that it's a road game against Sunderland and a home game against QPR. They get 4 points from those games and they're probably safe. Hull needs a win against Burnley and Burnley needs a win against Hull. That will be an awesome game this morning. After that Hull faces Tottenham on the road and Manchester United at home. Tottenham is going to be trying to hold their Europa League spot and United may have to be holding on to their Champions League spot so getting that win against Burnley is imperative for Hull. The team I'm really keeping an eye on though in terms of being relegated is Newcastle. They close out their schedule with West Brom, QPR and West Ham which isn't a very difficult schedule but nothing is easy for Newcastle these days. They have been awful since Alan Pardew left for Crystal Palace. Suddenly he's not looking so bad, is he? Also, congrats to our Miller Park friends in Swansea City for what looks to be their best Premier League finish ever! Great season for them.

I would love it if Jerry Augustine did one of those promos but it went like this instead. "I'm Jerry Augustine and you're watching da Brewers."

I swear if Bill was a hitting coach he would tell every player to just go to the opposite field. Pitch middle in, don't drive it, try to take it to the opposite field!

Cubs CF Dexter Fowler 2B Kris Bryant 1B Anthony Rizzo C Miguel Montero RF Jorge Soler SS Starlin Castro LF Chris Coghlan P Jason Hammel 2B Addison Russell Brewers SS Jean Segura 2B Scooter Gennett RF Ryan Braun 1B Adam Lind 3B Aramis Ramirez CF Gerardo Parra LF Khris Davis C Martin Maldonado P Jimmy Nelson Gomez out again. Did we take him off the DL too early?

Everyone should be on the block. There are no untouchables on a team this bad. Obviously guys like Lucroy are going to cost more than guys like Lohse but we can't be saying no this player isn't available to any team. It all depends on the offer. Every player should be available all the time because you never know what team is going to offer something ridiculously good. I don't understand your thinking that Parra can cover CF in a Gomez trade. Parra should be gone too. He's a free agent at the end of the year, why not get value for him now? Lohse Garza Braun Lucroy Gomez Lind Ramirez Fiers Parra Maldonado Any bullpen arm Any bench player That should be the list of players available at minimum. Obviously you don't have to trade all of them but secondary pieces and players that aren't likely to be part of our next contending team should be available.

I feel prospects are undervalued by a good portion of posters on this website. For years there have been a ton of posters that have just shot down any thought of trading guys while their value was high for prospects that could help in the future with the idea that we were "close" and just needed "a few pieces" to push us over the edge to contender status. And now look where the team is. What else is more valuable to a small market franchise that can't outspend pretty much any other team than young, talented, controllable players? That should be incredibly valuable to the Brewers and anyone who is a fan of the Brewers.

It's basically the same position. It's not like he had no idea what it was going to be like.

Jonathan Broxton everyone!

For all the crap we give Davis about his arm, Braun has a pretty bad arm. He'll make an occasional good throw but it's more likely he'll spike a three hopper to the plate than make a good throw.

This game is on MLB Network for those that have it.

Anything notable from the Attanasio interview or just the usual fluff?

Not sure where you got the 10th most wins of any team in baseball since 2008 but it's not true because they're 14th and it's irrelevant anyways considering some of the teams that have more wins than they do in that time frame. Braves Red Sox Reds Tigers Angels Dodgers Yankees A's Phillies Giants Cardinals Rays Rangers All have more wins than the Brewers from 2008 to now. So the Brewers are decidedly mediocre. Yay, I guess. Just like I don't care that the Phillies have more wins than us on your arbitrarily picked year, I don't care that the Nationals have less. All I care about is how the Brewers can become consistent contenders and I've yet to see a defined plan that gives me any confidence that the owner, GM and front office as a whole can make it happen.

I don't think anyone is saying that. The problem is and I think it's a real concern with this management/ownership is that they start winning some games. Maybe stay within say 6 or 7 games of the wildcard, not really contending at all but not bad enough to the point where they're obvious sellers. At that point Melvin and Attanasio could start thinking "with just a few adjustments and new acquisitions we're pretty close to being contenders" to the point where they trade nobody and we go even further down the road to mediocrity. I think they're within 6 games of the WC right now. I get that. We're only 25 games in though. I don't really consider being within 6 or 7 games of the wildcard "contending" but I could see a scenario where come July the Brewers are say 34-43 and the 2nd wildcard team is say 41-36 and Melvin and Attanasio saying to themselves "You know we haven't been that bad since the manager change and nobody is really running away with that second wild card. Let's keep this team together and give it a shot." And then I worry they could convince themselves in the offseason they're only a few tweaks to the roster away from "contending" again and they do nothing in the offseason or add a few pieces that cost a lot of money but don't really help a lot. I think that's the last thing this franchise needs to do.

I don't think anyone is saying that. The problem is and I think it's a real concern with this management/ownership is that they start winning some games. Maybe stay within say 6 or 7 games of the wildcard, not really contending at all but not bad enough to the point where they're obvious sellers. At that point Melvin and Attanasio could start thinking "with just a few adjustments and new acquisitions we're pretty close to being contenders" to the point where they trade nobody and we go even further down the road to mediocrity.

I think he said something that he knew was probably 50/50 on him getting ejected and then after he said it quickly turned away.

I'm not sure what the producer thinks that view directly behind home plate in the first row of seats is giving us but it's not nearly a good enough angle as he thinks it is, so he should probably stop using it.

FS Wisconsin just went to commercial with two outs showing they're just as competent as the team on the field.