Cubs pitching

[splitterpfj]

It's likely a temporary move, but Hill is in the pen this weekend. When you pair that with Lilly's terrible start to the season, I'm sure this isn't what Cubs fans envisioned.

 

Kind of like the Brewers' bats at the moment.

[pitchleague]

well, they certainly need some arms out there after Lou has used the pen so much so early in the season. All the extra inning games didn't help, of course, but still.

 

On a personal note, I'm not sure if I'm happy or not about this move. I have Hill on one of my Diamond Mind teams and he was going to be a staple in the team's rotation. But moving him to the pen helps ensure that his durability will be increase and he won't have a games played limitation in our league.

[owbc]

This is an important reminder for Brewers fans that all is not lost when we lose 3 games in a row. The offense is a concern, but I certainly don't doubt that the offense will heat up when the weather warms up.

 

What is much worse is to have pitching problems already in April. Starters with short outings burns the bullpen out early in the year, and as pitchleague mentioned, the Cubs won those extra innings games, but there will be consequences for it down the road. Plus, seeing Zambrano be himself yesterday doesn't help things. I'll take 6 inning starts by Villanueva/Parra over that anyday.

 

Furthermore, teams like the Orioles/Marlins/Cardinals are not going to maintain these hot starts.

[splitterpfj]

Lilly got lit up again, he's obviously not right at the moment. I'm not going to kick 'em while they're down, because in baseball, fortunes change constantly over the course of a season, but this does not bode well for the Cubs.

[TuesdaysWithRillo]

Now only if Dempster can stop pitching over his head and then we're talking.

[JMBehnke]

Lilly only goes 4.1, gotta love that!

[Ennder]

I'm sure Dempster won't keep his .130 BABIP against all year.

[JMBehnke]

Including today's games, The Brewers' bullpen has pitched 29.2 innings to the Cubs' 48.0 (at least according to my math). Does anyone know if this is a stat kept and available anywhere, like on the MLB.com site? I looked for it but couldn't find it so I just went through all the box scores and calculated it myself.

[rluzinski]

Use the "as reliever" split on ESPN:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?sort=ERA&split=128&group=8&season=2008&seasonType=2&statType=pitching&type=reg

[brewers19]

You can look it up on ESPN.com's stat page; looking at the 'Team Pitching' page and the 'As A Reliever' filter. Although, this produces results of Cubs 43.2 and Brewers 30.0

 

EDIT: I'm getting slow in my old age.

[dlk9s]

I'm not going to kick 'em while they're down, because in baseball, fortunes change constantly over the course of a season, but this does not bode well for the Cubs.

Exactly. They were sure down last year and we saw what happened. I will always remember the 2007 season when I'm tempted to get too high or too low about a team.

 

[owbc]

The ESPN bullpen stats are cool, but the Brewers' ERA is distorted right now due to McClung getting lit up. I would say our bullpen has been excellent so far.

[TooLiveBrew]

I'm sure Dempster won't keep his .130 BABIP against all year

C'mon though... this is RYAN Dempster! http://forum.brewerfan.net/images/smilies/wink.gif

[JMBehnke]

Use the "as reliever" split on ESPN:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/aggregate?sort=ERA&split=128&group=8&season=2008&seasonType=2&statType=pitching&type=reg

Hmph, not only do I suck at finding information, apparently I also suck at math...