The Jim Joyce/Perfect Game Thread

[Southwest Brewer]

Not that ego had anything to do with it, but how about Galarraga's game getting ruined by an ump inserting himself into the outcome.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

I don't know if the ump inserted himself into the outcome. He obviously thought it was the right call.

 

No one is going to feel worse than that ump when he sees that replay.

[davego]

Jim Joyce screwed up the call, but I'm assuming he might have figured it out shorly after the play. He could have corrected himself and asked another Ump to come into the play. Nice move dipwad.

[Southwest Brewer]

Jim Joyce screwed up the call, but I'm assuming he might have figured it out shorly after the play. He could have corrected himself and asked another Ump to come into the play. Nice move dipwad.

Agreed. If ever there was a time for an umpire huddle, this was it.

[SZBrewerFan]

And now Jim Joyce takes away a piece of baseball immortality from Armando Gallaraga from Detroit on a play that wasn't really that close. If you didn't see it Gallaraga had a perfect game through 8 2/3 and Donald (Cleveland SS) hit a ball to Cabera's right at first base. Cabrera ranged far to his right and threw a pee to Gallaraga covering first base. They got him by a good half step and Joyce called him safe. Now I realize that a play like that is pretty "bang-bang" but in that situation if it is close do you not have to give the nod to the pitcher on the verge of being the 21st pitcher in MLB history to throw a perfect game? And on top of that it wasn't close. If you and I were there it would have been close, but a guy who has been in the league as long as Joyce should be able to see 1/2 step pretty clearly.

[Buckylovesbeer]

Good to see the players still celebrate with Gallaraga while the manager and coaching staff chewed the umpire a new behind........Joyce will feel the shame shortly when he sees the replay.

[davego]

Joyce might not, he is better then you. Just ask him.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Now I realize that a play like that is pretty "bang-bang"

That play was more like bang

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bang.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Although that call was terrible, I disagree with the notion I'm reading everywhere that you "give the call to the pitcher." If you think the guy is actually safe, call him safe. Don't hand someone a perfect game. But man, that just wasn't that close.

[topper09er]

If you watch the replay he made a slight movement like he was starting to call the runner out and then reversed. It would be interesting to know why he seemingly changed his mind

[Rhett16]

I hope Joyce comes down with the flu tonight and misses tomorrow's game, because if he doesn't, he is gonna get killed at that stadium.

[RayKingsForemanGrill]

I asked this in the In-game thread, but we're all a little unsure:

 

Can Baseball overturn that? Especially considering it was the final out and it would not change the outcome of the game.

 

So blatant...

[sheethead]

I think baseball can do whatever they want, and they are going to have to overturn it. Otherwise, the instant replay flame will start to burn way out of control very, very soon.

[RyDogg66]

If you watch the replay he made a slight movement like he was starting to call the runner out and then reversed. It would be interesting to know why he seemingly changed his mind

He was thinking YEEERR OOUU -"man, three perfect games, we're handing these things out like trick-or-treat candy," SAFE!!!!!!

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Don't know if any of you watch hockey, but the Flyers just had a goal pretty clearly go over the line, but it was never called.

 

The difference is, replay got it for them a few minutes later.

[trwi7]

Don't know if any of you watch hockey, but the Flyers just had a goal pretty clearly go over the line, but it was never called.

Hockey does it right. Use the call on the ice and keep play going, then at the first stoppage of play they go to replay. If the call is reversed by replay, they go back to what it would have been at the time of the play in question.

 

 

[iluvlamp]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5244971

 

I just feel bad for Gallarraga.

[RayKingsForemanGrill]

To his credit (although it doesn't change anything), Jim Joyce was all class in his post-game interview. Admitted he made the wrong call, even said he stole the perfect game from the kid, thought he was right until he saw the replay. Then tipped his cap to Galaraga for not getting in his face while all his teammates did.

There's going to be some self loathing in his hotel room tonight.

[WestSideWillie]

While Joyce blew the call, messed up the chance for history, I don't know how you can use video for

every baseball close out-safe call. There are too many other factors, such as the "neighborhood" play,

the first baseman pulling off the base, etc. Still I feel God-awful for the Tiger pitcher. He showed

nothing but class, I admire his attitude, whether it was the great play the CF made or the blown call.

[cwolf2012]

If there was ever a need for a challenge system, tonight is the night.

[Hofbraunhaus]

I feel so bad for Gallarraga and Joyce, although a little less for the latter. It's being reported that Joyce went into the locker room after the game and personally apologized to Gallarraga and Leyland which I have to say is a class act. I'm not sure I would be able to face them after a situation like this.

[logan82]

I don't believe this really belongs in this thread. It is a blown call not a case of an umpire with an overinflated ego. Joyce wasn't aggressive and didn't escalate the situation. He made what is obviously a mistake. It would be great to have replay for situations like this but it didn't cost the Tigers the game.

[adamb100]

Cant the call get reversed? I know the Brewers tried a similar thing when CC Sabathia pitched a game.

[Gobias Industries]

Cant the call get reversed? I know the Brewers tried a similar thing when CC Sabathia pitched a game.

That was a scoring decision though. I don't think they can reverse, even though for everyone's sake, they should.

[davego]

The offical scorer could have pulled a stunt an assigned an error.