2011-07-10 Reds (Willis) at Brewers (Wolf) - [Brewers win 4-3, Counsell walkoff SF]

[pebadger]

I don't believe it was an ordered hit on Ricky or even a rational strategy move. It was just anger and some sort of twisted thought in Cordero's head that hitting Ricky didn't matter. I don't think he meant to hit him in the head, but I think he meant to hit him well above the waist and it got away up just a bit.

[Raw Biz]

Kotsay and counsel who said we don't have a bench

Fixed. This game/week doesn't change my mind about them for the rest of the season.

[natronek8780]

Glad I left the board for a while. I was thinking if I went away, maybe we could work some magic. Didn't expect to see it turn out exactly that way, but I guess T Plush and Kotsay were the heroes of the homestand!

[DuWayne Steurer]

Wow. What a classless piece of.........something Cordero is. You blow 2 saves in 3 chances, and your coping mechanism is throwing a fastball at a former teammates head? Classy move.

 

So glad the Brewers pulled this one out.

[BrewerTerp]

nyjer morgan has been worth almost 2 wins and doesn't even play everyday. 2nd best trade melvin has made.

[natronek8780]

On pace for 86 wins at the AS Break. I'm guessing we'll need to improve that to about 88 or 89 to win the Division. A couple of small tweaks can add 2-3 wins in the second half, but I'm very happy to be tied for 1st with a 49-43 record. In most divisions we'd be a couple back at least.

[topper09er]

Not sure why Plush was so excited when he scored the tying run, it was only the 7th inning right?

[ilovebeer]

another epic call by Uecker

[brewmann04]

Well the next two weeks after the break will show what they are made of

[dlk9s]

There is no way that should have scored a run

In a normal situation, true, but it worked because the outfield had to play way in, thus causing the LF's momentum to be going backwards when he made the catch.

 

And I am fine with the choice of CC there instead of Gomez. CC has sick career numbers with the bases loaded, can take a walk, can make contact, and is a lefty. The righty matchup with Gomez would not have been good. Gomez' power advantage was really the only reason to have him bat. His speed wouldn't have really mattered, as the infield was playing in and would not have likely been able to turn a DP. Home to first, I guess, but I see that as unlikely enough that it's not a big deal.

[LaprilOne]

The pride of Berkeley Boulevard! Great job, Craig!

[ninja33]

There is no way that should have scored a run

In a normal situation, true, but it worked because the outfield had to play way in, thus causing the LF's momentum to be going backwards when he made the catch.

 

And I am fine with the choice of CC there instead of Gomez. CC has sick career numbers with the bases loaded, can take a walk, can make contact, and is a lefty. The righty matchup with Gomez would not have been good. Gomez' power advantage was really the only reason to have him bat. His speed wouldn't have really mattered, as the infield was playing in and would not have likely been able to turn a DP. Home to first, I guess, but I see that as unlikely enough that it's not a big deal.

Heisey took a terrible route to the ball. Even playing up like that, he shouldn't have had so much of his momentum going backward....he started moving laterally first. Also, there's no excuse to not set your feet.

I'll take it.

 

[Yeti73]

All things considered (tough sked, Braun injury, Grienke craziness, Loe downs, YunE6, Casey's struggles), you have to be happy with where we are. I can easily see us getting to 90 wins. Our schedule is one of the easiest around in August and September.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I don't understand playing the outfield that far in in that situation.

 

You have to catch a flyball where it is hit. If it's hit 275 feet deep, you have to catch it there, it doesn't matter where you're standing when the at bat starts, you have to throw the ball from where you catch it.

 

I get maybe trying to cut off a shallow base hit, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

[GamelToe]

Lately, I thought Roenicke has made some solid managerial moves. This series has been marvelous, IMO. (although I was a bit salty last night not seeing Braun up with 2 out in the 9th, but I don't think that's Roencike's fault)

[Funketown]

Clap. Clap. Clap.

 

Let's give some much deserved respect to Kameron Loe for his solid two innings. That's huge in a one run game, as is evidenced by the result tonight.

 

I'm really happy Cordero made the decision to go to Cincy for the extra $4 million. Of course, the whole Gagne ordeal never would have occurred...Still though.

[dlk9s]

I don't understand playing the outfield that far in in that situation.

 

You have to catch a flyball where it is hit. If it's hit 275 feet deep, you have to catch it there, it doesn't matter where you're standing when the at bat starts, you have to throw the ball from where you catch it.

 

I get maybe trying to cut off a shallow base hit, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

That's a good point. With a guy on third, there's no way the OF is going to throw him out at home on a base hit. Might as well play back/normal depth so they can be coming in on a fly ball.

[Oldcity]

Lately, I thought Roenicke has made some solid managerial moves.

Said the same thing. He did a good job today.

See what Loe can do if he's just used properly?

 

[brewmann04]

Well it nice to be in first with the issues in the pen the horrible defense Casey season long poor hitting streak bad base running.so we have plenty to improve so if they do make some adjustments we might be looking at winning this division.

[topper09er]

I don't understand playing the outfield that far in in that situation.

 

You have to catch a flyball where it is hit. If it's hit 275 feet deep, you have to catch it there, it doesn't matter where you're standing when the at bat starts, you have to throw the ball from where you catch it.

 

I get maybe trying to cut off a shallow base hit, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

You have to play in to the point where you could throw the runner out at home on a SF. It does you no good to catch the ball 275 ft deep because the run will easily score and you lose. They have to basically know what is the limit of their arm and play that shallow so that they would have a very good chance of throwing the runner out at home.

 

The one mistake they made today was not adjusting for the speed of the runner, it looked like thats the depth they would play in that scenario no matter who the runner is. If someone like Gomez is on 3rd you are probably better playing with 5 IF'ers because he will score on almost anything to any outfielder that could not be fielded by an infielder.

[brewmann04]

Yes loe pitched well and nice when he not thrown in every game

[GamelToe]

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/a...ey=notebook_cin&c_id=cin

 

*snickers*

[ilovebeer]

On the sac fly it looks like the ball hit the 3rd base coach and that s why it was a bad throw, did that happen?

[DuWayne Steurer]

I don't understand playing the outfield that far in in that situation.

 

You have to catch a flyball where it is hit. If it's hit 275 feet deep, you have to catch it there, it doesn't matter where you're standing when the at bat starts, you have to throw the ball from where you catch it.

 

I get maybe trying to cut off a shallow base hit, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense.

You have to play in to the point where you could throw the runner out at home on a SF. It does you no good to catch the ball 275 ft deep because the run will easily score and you lose. They have to basically know what is the limit of their arm and play that shallow so that they would have a very good chance of throwing the runner out at home.

 

The one mistake they made today was not adjusting for the speed of the runner, it looked like thats the depth they would play in that scenario no matter who the runner is. If someone like Gomez is on 3rd you are probably better playing with 5 IF'ers because he will score on almost anything to any outfielder that could not be fielded by an infielder.

Well that's just it. Kottaras isn't exactly the swiftest cat. They could have easily played deeper, and still had a chance to throw him out. At the very least, Heisey would have had a chance to set and have proper momentum on his throw. Not saying he would have got him, but it might have been close.

[SoCal Brew Crew Fan]

Yes loe pitched well and nice when he not thrown in every game

 

No doubt...same with Gomez...the complaints on those two have been more around how they were used. Now that things have changed for Loe like they have for "Gomey", he can be real valuable and not abused.