Game Thread (6/28/2022): Rays (Baz) at Brewers (Woodruff) - 6:10 PM CDT

[jason21nl]

Awesome win vs a quality team.  Woody looked great

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

Significant win over a good team. Woodruff looking like himself is a huge deal for this club.

Yep. That is how we compete with other teams in the NL who may have better offenses than us on paper. Two top 10 starting pitchers and then a shut down late inning relief corps. The upgrade from Chi Chi/Alexander to an in-form Woodruff can't be overstated. 

[Brewcrew82]

Too bad I was told the Brewers can't beat good teams....Of course playing the Reds, Pirates, and Cubs on a regular basis helps, but this team can hang in there with the best of them when everybody's not on the IL. 

[Outlander]

24 minutes ago, bulldogboy0733 said:

Not sure why Counsell did that but it wasn't good idea. Like I said Alexander has done his job as a starter. Give him Houser spot and let's get on with the Houser in the pen that we all agree is best for all.

Definitely not, Alexander is a journeyman.and hopefully about done with the Brewers. Thanks for not not being a dumpster fire when they had all of these injuries

 

[Brewcrew82]

9 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I don’t know what posters you are talking about but I know I have made my position on this as clear as possible, including as recently as yesterday.

I wasn't even talking about you in the first place. But the fact remains that, even by your own Fangraphs citation, the Brewers are likely to have an equal or better offense over the rest of the season than the Padres, Giants, Phillies, White Sox, Rays, etc. They're not that far behind teams like the Twins, Cardinals, and Mets either. So, the Brewers are definitely not alone among contenders on offense. 

[BruisedCrew]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I wasn't even talking about you in the first place. But the fact remains that, even by your own Fangraphs citation, the Brewers are likely to have an equal or better offense over the rest of the season than the Padres, Giants, Phillies, White Sox, Rays, etc. They're not that far behind teams like the Twins, Cardinals, and Mets either. So, the Brewers are definitely not alone among contenders on offense. 

See what I added to that post about the full season. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Definitely not, Alexander is a journeyman.and hopefully about done with the Brewers. Thanks for not not being a dumpster fire when they had all of these injuries

 

I'm resigned to them sitting A-relievers down when the lead grows, but Alexander was put in an unfamiliar situation, and it's not like we were up 6-7 runs. Not a great spot for him.

I actually wouldn't mind him being looked at as a piggyback guy with Ashby, who has shown no propensity to go 6-7 strong innings, when he comes back.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'm resigned to them sitting A-relievers down when the lead grows, but Alexander was put in an unfamiliar situation, and it's not like we were up 6-7 runs. Not a great spot for him.

I actually wouldn't mind him being looked at as a piggyback guy with Ashby, who has shown no propensity to go 6-7 strong innings, when he comes back.

A guy like Gustave or Milner would've probably been better. Alexander puts way too many baserunners on to use him in a 4 run game. 

[willie key]

1 minute ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'm resigned to them sitting A-relievers down when the lead grows, but Alexander was put in an unfamiliar situation, and it's not like we were up 6-7 runs. Not a great spot for him.

I actually wouldn't mind him being looked at as a piggyback guy with Ashby, who has shown no propensity to go 6-7 strong innings, when he comes back.

The guy I’m worried about is houser.    He’s close to getting replaced.   But with whom?

i don’t think he’s got a lot of chances left if he continues to have bad outings after bad outings

[Jim French Stepstool]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

A guy like Gustave or Milner would've probably been better. Alexander puts way too many baserunners on to use him in a 4 run game. 

Milner actually would've fit well there. L-R-L due up. They would've called Phillips back, but none of their PH's scare me except Choi, who wouldn't have been used. Fine to pull Williams back, but not for JA.

[CdrbrgMark]

27 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I don’t really care about them, but their offense is weak for a playoff contender too. The AL doesn’t have that many teams over .500 so they could make the playoffs as a wild card team but they would have a hard time going very far. 

AL has 7 0f 15 teams over .500, 2 over .600. AL has 8 of 15 teams over .500, 3 at or over .600. So essentially, both Leagues are about the same.

[Jim French Stepstool]

8 minutes ago, willie key said:

The guy I’m worried about is houser.    He’s close to getting replaced.   But with whom?

i don’t think he’s got a lot of chances left if he continues to have bad outings after bad outings

Houser has been mediocre to bad for quite awhile now, I agree. But I don't see him being lifted from the rotation anytime soon.

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Houser has been mediocre to bad for quite awhile now, I agree. But I don't see him being lifted from the rotation anytime soon.

Hopefully he figured something out after the 2nd inning on Friday when he held the Jays potent lineup scoreless for the next four innings. And the start before that against the Reds was a quality start. It's all about avoiding that big inning with him where his command of his sinker just disappears and he can't throw strikes with his breaking pitches. 

[CdrbrgMark]

Good win tonight. nice to see. Let's do it again tomorrow !!

[BruisedCrew]

18 minutes ago, CdrbrgMark said:

AL has 7 0f 15 teams over .500, 2 over .600. AL has 8 of 15 teams over .500, 3 at or over .600. So essentially, both Leagues are about the same.

The more important point is that the average RPG for NL teams is 4.49 and for AL teams is 4.19. 
 

That’s the main reason why I think it’s better to limit the comparisons to just NL teams, the ones the Brewers are competing with for playoff positions. 

[CdrbrgMark]

15 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

The more important point is that the average RPG for NL teams is 4.49 and for AL teams is 4.19. 
 

That’s the main reason why I think it’s better to limit the comparisons to just NL teams, the ones the Brewers are competing with for playoff positions. 

 I don't really see where .30 RPG differenc means anything. What am I missing?

[BruisedCrew]

7 hours ago, CdrbrgMark said:

 I don't really see where .30 RPG differenc means anything. What am I missing?

Over the course of the season that’s 50 runs, which is not insignificant.

The highest scoring teams are only .7 RPG over the MLB average.

Regardless, I think it makes most sense to compare the Brewers to the teams they are competing with directly for playoff positions. As of today, the Brewers have a lower RPG average than any of the other 7 NL playoff contenders by amounts ranging from .21 to .71 RPG.