Boxberger Option Declined / Tyson Miller Claimed

[sveumrules]

Two Brewers headlines at the top of MLBTR currently, Brad Boxberger's option declined and Tyson Miller claimed on waivers.

[sveumrules]

Kinda surprised on Boxberger since it was only $3M vs a 750K buyout.

Miller looks like he put up a good year at AA back in 2019 but has struggled at AAA/MLB in the three years since.

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Two Brewers headlines at the top of MLBTR currently, Brad Boxberger's option declined and Tyson Miller claimed on waivers.

Honestly, not that surprised. Boxberger was really good for us the past two years no doubt, but his velocity and underlying numbers are starting to decline. Seems like a situation where we already got everything we could out of the guy, and that the best thing is to just move on. 

[stoutdude04]

5 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Honestly, not that surprised. Boxberger was really good for us the past two years no doubt, but his velocity and underlying numbers are starting to decline. Seems like a situation where we already got everything we could out of the guy, and that the best thing is to just move on. 

So...when do they sign him back??

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

Considering the volatility of relievers, I thought picking up Boxberger's option was a no-brainer. But this team has made plenty of perplexing (at least to me) moves like this in the last couple years, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked. 

Miller has a live arm I guess. Cheap dime-a-dozen reliever that I guess they hope to catch lightning in a bottle with.

[ClosetBrewerFan]

Seems like the classic case of Sell high, buy low.  They obviously think Box has had his best days.  We will see how next year goes.  relievers are fickle so you never know what you are going to get.

I know nothing about Tyson other than looking at his stats.  He had low walk totals most of his career until they skyrocketed since AAA in 2019.  Maybe they see something they can fix.  Only costs us a 40 man spot to see what he can do, and they have those available.

[wiguy94]

Nobody in the MLB wanted Boxberger at $3M. 

[markedman5]

 

[DR28]

56 minutes ago, markedman5 said:

 

And then sign him back for more than $3 mil, I sure hope not.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

7 minutes ago, DR28 said:

And then sign him back for more than $3 mil, I sure hope not.

This is both funny and not funny.

[tmwiese55]

But it's only 2.25 mil more to the Brewers, if I understand the buyout correctly.  He certainly started trending down the 2nd half of the year and that's likely the reason for this move.  But for 2.25 mil I don't see the risk here.  Really, the slow down in 2nd half was likely due to how much he was overworked for the stretch right before it so it's not unrealistic to expect a bit less usage that he'll still be a solid middle reliever again next year. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, DR28 said:

And then sign him back for more than $3 mil, I sure hope not.

If he wants more than $3 mil on the open market, I doubt the Brewers will bring him back. I don't expect him back at this point, regardless. 

[Oxy]

Well, I'm 0 for 2 on options. Box has been as consistently good as anyone not closing games the last 2 years out of the bullpen.  He's experienced and steady, which are nice things to have back there.  I'd offer him a deal for $1.5M with another $1.5M team option yr with $500K buyout.

[Oxy]

1 minute ago, MrTPlush said:

So decline Box’s option for $2.25mil (buyout is already sunk cost) and then hand him $3mil guaranteed.

Brilliant.

no. 2 mil guaranteed and if he is STILL good you get him cheap another year. The buyout this year (.75) plus 1.5 plus .5 equals 2.75 guaranteed.  So you are saving 250K with the added benefit of possibly getting him another year for cheap (1.5)

[Hacksaw Jim Duggan]

I guess the Brewers are going to find better than Brad B. for $2.25 million or less.  Let's see.

[markedman5]

Velocity down…….whip up……fly ball rate up…….mid 30s now…..obviously no such thing as a sure thing but they obviously have concerns and think they can do better going forward.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2022/11/10/milwaukee-brewers-decline-option-let-pitcher-brad-boxberger-become-free-agent/69637991007/

[Jim French Stepstool]

5 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

 Seems like a situation where we already got everything we could out of the guy

That was my first thought as well.

Time to enter the ring, Jake Cousins (and whatever other relievers they undoubtedly bring to camp).

[Robocaller]

It surprises me.

I don't know if they'll be able to find a better reliever for $2.25M.

I think this signifies that they're just going to go with the scrap-heap reclamation projects to fill out the bullpen. Sign 4, 2 might work out.

 

[michael1960]

His stuff is not that great, so when he makes a mistake, it's usually a doozy. And that happened too often.

[Robocaller]

If they don't think Boxberger is worth 2.25M, I can't see them thinking $3.1M is worthwhile for Suter, who pitched in lower-leverage innings.

Unless they negotiate a contract cheaper than that.