College Umpire Suspended After Stike-call to End Game

[MrTPlush]

I am guessing this umpire was trying to speed the game along with the close-ish strike #2. The batter was kind of a D-bag about it (probably ejection worthy) and I think the umpire decided to one-up his antics. 

 

 

[jerichoholicninja]

The player really instigated all this but it's nice to see an umpire being punished for totally unprofessional behavior. Hopefully (lol, they won't) MLB takes notice.

[HarryDoyle]

Umpires should have a longer leash when calling college games. These are still young kids, some still teenagers, that haven't fully matured yet. I wouldn't have had a problem if the umpire ejected him after the second strike, but what he ultimately did is beyond inexcusable.

[adambr2]

Any umpire that steps outside the boundaries of professionalism to make a call that is blatantly personal has lost all credibility, permanently.

That umpire should never work another game at the collegiate or any level. 

[Oxy]

23 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Any umpire that steps outside the boundaries of professionalism to make a call that is blatantly personal has lost all credibility, permanently.

That umpire should never work another game at the collegiate or any level. 

If the game was in doubt, yes. The game was all but over. The ump coulda thrown the kid out after strike 2, but that just would have extended the inevitable for everybody, so he decided to end the game and let everybody get on with their night instead.

[brewcrewdue80]

defensively I think in the timeframe of the incident, batter shows disgust, returns to plate quickly(pitch clock?) Then crosses his bat showing ump up. But it's what 3secs? til pitch? He threw the batter out of the game by basically calling strike 3. Down 3 or 4 2 outs 2 strikes in 9th. My only defense to the batter would be if he waved bat over the plate like he did most of his plate appearances. Then it's just routine vs showing up the ump on what was a clear strike 1 out from end of game.  If it's just the batter showing up the ump, I hope the ump makes a statement he wished he ejected the batter vs an unfair strike 3 call after the batter made his gesture after his visual actions being displeased.

Kinda feel like a dad moment, like son don't show up an ump on a close pitch over the plate. Disrespecting the ump, as well as the pitcher who made a great pitch. That's why I called strike 3 to you, respect others it's a game that on that pitch was 99.9pct over.

[areacodes]

12 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

defensively I think in the timeframe of the incident, batter shows disgust, returns to plate quickly(pitch clock?) Then crosses his bat showing ump up. But it's what 3secs? til pitch? He threw the batter out of the game by basically calling strike 3. Down 3 or 4 2 outs 2 strikes in 9th. My only defense to the batter would be if he waved bat over the plate like he did most of his plate appearances. Then it's just routine vs showing up the ump on what was a clear strike 1 out from end of game.  If it's just the batter showing up the ump, I hope the ump makes a statement he wished he ejected the batter vs an unfair strike 3 call after the batter made his gesture after his visual actions being displeased.

Kinda feel like a dad moment, like son don't show up an ump on a close pitch over the plate. Disrespecting the ump, as well as the pitcher who made a great pitch. That's why I called strike 3 to you, respect others it's a game that on that pitch was 99.9pct over.

I’m honestly sorta surprised at responses like this that I’ve seen here and other places defending the ump/thinking it was okay because it ‘taught the player a lesson’.

Yes, the player overreacted to a terrible strike 2 call (and no, it wasn’t a clear strike and the announcers were surprised by the call/commented that it was “way low”). Did he ‘disrespect’ the ump? Sure, I guess the kid could have handled it better but he took a couple of hops out of the batters box, maybe said a few words (couldn’t clearly see his face watching the video on my phone), got back in the box and pointed to where the ball crossed the plate without saying anything. What does the adult do to this? Makes a mockery of the game with what has to be the worst strike 3 call I’ve ever seen. 

The ump disrespected the integrity of the game and the pitcher/both teams more with his strike three call than anything the batter did. A dad teaching moment there would have been for the ump to call the rest of the game professionally and then speak to the player afterwards - the ump showed zero respect for the game with his actions.

16 hours ago, Oxy said:

If the game was in doubt, yes. The game was all but over. The ump coulda thrown the kid out after strike 2, but that just would have extended the inevitable for everybody, so he decided to end the game and let everybody get on with their night instead.

Professionalism/integrity from the ump should be expected if the score is 1-0 with the tying run on 3rd or down 7-3 with two strike and two outs in the 9th. No excuse for the call.

It is baseball, there is no clock and you are never completely out of it until all of your outs have been used up.  
 

May 11, 2004: Wes Helms ended a 14-inning battle with a home run to top Montreal, but the real fun was a five-run ninth to tie. In fact, the Brewers were down to their last strike and still facing a four-run deficit, but Chad Moeller singled against Rocky Biddle, Brooks Kieschnick doubled and Scott Podsednik tied the game with a two-run single. https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/mlb/brewers/2021/05/14/25-top-walk-off-homers-milwaukee-brewers-history/4512962001/

[jerichoholicninja]

Ya I don't know how anyone can defend the umpire here. I guess since he just walked off the field and didn't instigate a confrontation I'll give him credit for that but certainly not for calling strike 3 on a fastball off the plate that the catcher barely kept off the dirt.

[MrTPlush]

22 minutes ago, jerichoholicninja said:

Ya I don't know how anyone can defend the umpire here. I guess since he just walked off the field and didn't instigate a confrontation I'll give him credit for that but certainly not for calling strike 3 on a fastball off the plate that the catcher barely kept off the dirt.

Should have ejected the batter. Trying to make a point afterwards that questions the integrity of the game is not it. 

[CheezWizHed]

On 3/16/2023 at 1:54 PM, MrTPlush said:

Should have ejected the batter. Trying to make a point afterwards that questions the integrity of the game is not it. 

Why should the batter be ejected?  He didn't like the call, hopped up and down, and pointed to where he thought it crossed the plate.  Immature, yes.  Ejectable? Didn't seem like it to me.

[MrTPlush]

20 minutes ago, CheezWizHed said:

Why should the batter be ejected?  He didn't like the call, hopped up and down, and pointed to where he thought it crossed the plate.  Immature, yes.  Ejectable? Didn't seem like it to me.

You definitely do not use your bat to show the umpire where you thought the ball crossed the plate. Certainly not after having a temper tantrum. 

[jerichoholicninja]

3 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

Why should the batter be ejected?  He didn't like the call, hopped up and down, and pointed to where he thought it crossed the plate.  Immature, yes.  Ejectable? Didn't seem like it to me.

Pointing where you though the pitch was with the bat is an automatic ejection at any level.

[CheezWizHed]

I guess I don't know the finer points of arguing with the umpire anymore. 😉  I guess I remember the 80s/90s where you practically had to bump the ump to get ejected. 

Of course people were always careful not to show up the ump if you wanted fair calls... but I didn't realize it was ejectable... Kind of stupid if you ask me. 

[bjkrautk]

Am I the only one who remembers the old Ueck anecdote about a player arguing a strike call, only to be told "Next one's a strike too."?  That's literally what we're seeing in the video; player shows up the umpire, and the umpire gets the last word.

 

Two wrongs don't make a right, but this type of showdown is nothing new.

[Oxy]

6 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

I guess I don't know the finer points of arguing with the umpire anymore. 😉  I guess I remember the 80s/90s where you practically had to bump the ump to get ejected. 

Of course people were always careful not to show up the ump if you wanted fair calls... but I didn't realize it was ejectable... Kind of stupid if you ask me. 

My last AB as a bball player in High School was at regionals in a 1 run game and 2 guys on base.  Guy threw a ridiculous 65 mph "curveball" that started two feet above my head and half curved half let gravity act upon it to cross the plate at my armpits, which I took since it was high. Nope.  Strike 3, out 3, game over season over.  I didn't like the call.  I dropped my head, turned around and went back to the the dugout/bus to end my baseball career (and my team's season).

Showing up the ump in the pros is far different than in circumstances like this one.