Brewers (Rea) vs Phillies (Sanchez): 7/19/23, 5:40pm

[Brewcrew82]

I know Contreras has played a lot lately CC and Caratini is Burnes' personal catcher, but you can't take him out of the lineup tomorrow. DH him. 

[BruisedCrew]

6 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Multitasking 💪⚾️🙌

Really.

It isn’t that hard to follow a baseball game and carry on a conversation at the same time. 

[jjfanec]

8 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Don't look now but here come the Cardinals.

You mean the team with the 4th worst record in the NL. The team who is 10 games under .500. The team who is 10 games out of first. 

They have gained one game on the Brewers over the past 10 games. 

[BruisedCrew]

19 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I never said he was a good fit for 1B. Just that he's statistically one of the better fielding 1B. 

You would think that if he wasn't a good fielder at 1B, they wouldn't have him playing 1B at all considering his below average bat. 

A below league average bat is an above Brewers average  bat. 
 

For my education, what advanced stats are you using to conclude that Miller is one of the better defensive 1B in MLB.? If he is it must be because most teams prioritize hitting over defense at the position. 

[willie key]

Is counsell really quitting after this year.   That will be a loss for Milwaukee 

[yourout]

Thats a big win.

[Brewcrew82]

11 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

A below league average bat is an above Brewers average  bat. 
 

For my education, what advanced stats are you using to conclude that Miller is one of the better defensive 1B in MLB.? If he is it must be because most teams prioritize hitting over defense at the position. 

Fangraphs dWAR, OAA, DRS, UZR/150. 

[Brewcrew82]

From this season, for example....

[Fear The Chorizo]

10 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

From this season, for example....

Any capable middle infield defender would be near the top of the 1B defensive list if they played there...the Brewers are among the very few teams to sacrifice offense at that position after their primary 1B option both sucked and is injured, though.

And not being proficient at scooping is a big problem for 1b defense even if advanced metrics do a poor job of quantifying it - just ask pitchers and infielders making uneven throws whether they enjoy having to get extra outs in an inning or rack up throwing errors.

[BruisedCrew]

I can’t see the columns on that chart and the ads on the site block half of it. But is it telling you that Owen Miller is the best defensive first baseman in MLB and Freddie Freeman isn’t one of the top 20?
 

What is the meaning of the alphabet soup you provided ? Does any of it translate to “ability to scoop low throws?

[Brewcrew82]

18 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Any capable middle infield defender would be near the top of the 1B defensive list if they played there...the Brewers are among the very few teams to sacrifice offense at that position after their primary 1B option both sucked and is injured, though.

And not being proficient at scooping is a big problem for 1b defense even if advanced metrics do a poor job of quantifying it - just ask pitchers and infielders making uneven throws whether they enjoy having to get extra outs in an inning or rack up throwing errors.

Maybe they do a poor job of quantifying it. But Miller's missed what? 4 scoops at the most? Compare that to how many more plays he's made at 1B that the average 1B doesn't make...Same logic with errors being a poor statistic for measuring defense. Some of the best fielding SS in baseball put up a lot errors (and some costly ones, too), but that's just because they make more plays than the average SS. 

Under your logic, Rowdy Tellez would be considered a good first baseman because he makes some spectacular scoops. But he's not, because he can't get to anything that's not hit directly at him. And that occurs a lot more than his scoops. 

[Samurai Bucky]

My chance to yell at the clouds.  I apologize if this was mentioned already.

The broadcast had to be one of the worst directed broadcasts I have seen all year.  Goal 1:  let's make sure we see the batter get one or two steps out of the box before we flip to the camera where the play was made.

Goal 2:  make sure there are plenty of shots where it appears the cameras are in some type of hurricane or earthquake.

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

I can’t see the columns on that chart and the ads on the site block half of it. But is it telling you that Owen Miller is the best defensive first baseman in MLB and Freddie Freeman isn’t one of the top 20?
 

What is the meaning of the alphabet soup you provided ? Does any of it translate to “ability to scoop low throws?

You can go on fangraphs and look for yourself, too....

It's a list of first baseman with a minimum of 150 innings played in 2023, sorted by overall defensive value. Owen Miller is at the top for defensive value provided. He's also #2 in UZR/150 and top 10/12 in DRS and OAA. I still wouldn't call him the best first defensive baseman in baseball, but he's far from the total liability he's being painted as here. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

17 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Maybe they do a poor job of quantifying it. But Miller's missed what? 4 scoops at the most? Compare that to how many more plays he's made at 1B that the average 1B doesn't make...Same logic with errors being a poor statistic for measuring defense. Some of the best fielding SS in baseball put up a lot errors (and some costly ones, too), but that's just because they make more plays than the average SS. 

Under your logic, Rowdy Tellez would be considered a good first baseman because he makes some spectacular scoops. But he's not, because he can't get to anything that's not hit directly at him. And that occurs a lot more than his scoops. 

Under my logic Rowdy Tellez would be a good 1B when he hits 30 HR in a season and catches the ball when it's thrown to him, including picking balls out of the dirt.  I don't consider Miller to be a good 1B because he can't hit like a good one can.  I could care less what a guy's range factor is at first when everyone else across the defensive infield can go get it at an elite level for their positions.  

In my book the Brewers need to find a way to build a more balanced roster that includes a mix of premium defenders and more offense at corner IF/OF positions - not having enough impact offense at the traditional positions teams rely on for scoring runs leads to getting dominated by pitching in the postseason.  Owen Miller as their everyday 1B is the exact opposite approach I want them taking, even if it's like putting an extra MIF on the dirt defensively.

 

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Under my logic Rowdy Tellez would be a good 1B when he hits 30 HR in a season and catches the ball when it's thrown to him, including picking balls out of the dirt.  I don't consider Miller to be a good 1B because he can't hit like a good one can.  I could care less what a guy's range factor is at first when everyone else across the defensive infield can go get it at an elite level for their positions.  

In my book the Brewers need to find a way to build a more balanced roster that includes a mix of premium defenders and more offense at corner IF/OF positions - not having enough impact offense at the traditional positions teams rely on for scoring runs leads to getting dominated by pitching in the postseason.  Owen Miller as their everyday 1B is the exact opposite approach I want them taking, even if it's like putting an extra MIF on the dirt defensively.

 

I've strictly been talking about defense, and I've literally said Miller isn't a good fit at first base due to his offensive profile, so I'll ignore all of this...

[rickh150]

Big win again… great to see Contreras coming through with bat and arm.

[rickh150]

And we would be a half game ahead of Phillies for 3rd WC spot… like being in that race too. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, Samurai Bucky said:

My chance to yell at the clouds.  I apologize if this was mentioned already.

The broadcast had to be one of the worst directed broadcasts I have seen all year.  Goal 1:  let's make sure we see the batter get one or two steps out of the box before we flip to the camera where the play was made.

Goal 2:  make sure there are plenty of shots where it appears the cameras are in some type of hurricane or earthquake.

I particularly got a kick out of the Bohm flyout in the 7th. Cameras squarely zoned in on trying to answer the question "How many rows deep did the HR travel?", while Perkins catches it in front of the wall.

 

 

[Ro Mueller]

It’s nice to see Monasterio’s bet on the Brewers paying off. A minor league depth addition last year, he was crowded out from AAA Nashville in June 2022 and bumped down to AA Biloxi for nearly 2 months.

He finished the season with Nashville, then played two months of Venezuelan Winter Ball, racking up 160 plate appearances by late December.

In the meantime, he re-upped on a Minor League deal with the Brewers on December 20 despite knowing he’d be battling Turang, Toro, Owen Miller, Devanney and Dorrian for AAA playing time. And we also added Eddy Alvarez on that same December 20, then Josh VanMeter shortly after.

Monasterio just turned 26 years old in May and I hope he has a long, successful MLB career ahead of him.

[treego14]

Even after a win, we must turn the page!

[BruisedCrew]

12 hours ago, jjfanec said:

You mean the team with the 4th worst record in the NL. The team who is 10 games under .500. The team who is 10 games out of first. 

They have gained one game on the Brewers over the past 10 games. 

I think he’s also referring to the team that has won 5 in a row and 8 of its last 10 and has seen its Fangraphs playoff probability increase to 11%.