Mets (Quintana) vs Brewers (Myers): 10/3/24, 6:08pm

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Next year will be interesting, but in baseball nothing is guaranteed. 

Does Woody bounce back from shoulder surgery, or will he go the route of Jimmy Nelson and Ashby?  If he bounces back you have your ace back. 

Did the surgery fix Yelich’s back?  Will he be able to play most of the season and at least put up stats like this year?

Will Hoskins pick up his option?  My guess is 100% yes as who will want him. Will he have a good year in a contract year like Willy just did?

Joey Ortiz showed some flashes before his neck injury. Will he make strides like Turang did this season?

Chourio is another year older and will be the stud of this team. 

Again there is a lot to look forward to, but everything has to come together again and that is difficult over a 162 game season. 

You're probably correct re Hoskins. He had an entire year off, similar to a certain DH for the opponents tonite who will go unnamed. We all saw that DH stink up the place after the time off, and then put up much better numbers the following year. Would love to see that from Hoskins. If it happens, you're talking about someone who hit 26 HR in an 'off' year. He'll be 32 in March. Stay tuned.

I think everyone will be thrilled w/Ortiz & Turang in the MINF.

 

[yourout]

11 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Next year will be interesting, but in baseball nothing is guaranteed. 

Does Woody bounce back from shoulder surgery, or will he go the route of Jimmy Nelson and Ashby?  If he bounces back you have your ace back. 

Did the surgery fix Yelich’s back?  Will he be able to play most of the season and at least put up stats like this year?

Will Hoskins pick up his option?  My guess is 100% yes as who will want him. Will he have a good year in a contract year like Willy just did?

Joey Ortiz showed some flashes before his neck injury. Will he make strides like Turang did this season?

Chourio is another year older and will be the stud of this team. 

Again there is a lot to look forward to, but everything has to come together again and that is difficult over a 162 game season. 

I was actually hoping they would have pinch hit Haase for Ortiz in the 9th with the way he has been struggling in the series

[sobomp3]

Devin Williams is not a closer. Trevor McGill is the closer on this team. How many times has Williams come in and we wonder “what kind of Williams will we get tonight?” Thats just not a closer mentality. Trevor is a workhorse with the look of a psychopath. That’s who I want closing games. Sorry. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

My only issue with Murphy tonight is that Garrett Mitchell never had the bat in his hand once tonight. Very disappointed in that. 

For all his well-deserved glory last night, I think Quintana would've been a bad matchup for him. His best opps probably would've been in the 7th or 8th innings, hitting for Contreras who was poor tonite. But you know they weren't doing that.

[adambr2]

As tempting, and valid as it may be to blame payroll disparity, the Tigers and Royals are both right there with us. And they both did the job. 

[wOOgiE22]

7 minutes ago, yourout said:

I was actually hoping they would have pinch hit Haase for Ortiz in the 9th with the way he has been struggling in the series

I wouldn’t have been opposed to that either. Haase had some nice games and AB’s down the stretch. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

Probably a missed opportunity in Quintanas' final inning (6th). He actually seemed to be losing command, went deep in the count to all 3 hitters--3-2 to two of them if memory serves. Of course, we accommodate him by doing probably our worst chasing of the night. Contreras Ks, in an AB where he chased two pitches even though the count goes full. Adames chased a breaker in front of the plate. Sanchez chases at least one in a 3-2 AB. Probably Quintanas' worst inning, and we helped him immensely.

[wiguy94]

11 minutes ago, yourout said:

I was actually hoping they would have pinch hit Haase for Ortiz in the 9th with the way he has been struggling in the series

Absolutely. Ortiz was diabolically bad at the plate in this series. Basically a pitcher. I've pushed back on some of the Haase love from this board, but I would have taken him 100 times out of 100 over Ortiz there. Haase is absolutely a guy who could have hit a game tying HR or done some damage.

[SomewhereInTime]

9 minutes ago, owbc said:

I wish I hadn't listened to Uecker's call. It sounded like he was close to crying. It sounded like he was realizing that he isn't going to live to see the Brewers win a championship. I think he might be planning on hanging it up...or at least he was if they actually went on a deep run. [Edit--never mind, sounds like he told the team "see you next season"]

I want to see them win a pennant more than anything. It's incredible that this franchise has had more success in the last decade than I would have ever dreamed possible and yet they feel as far away as ever. They seem stuck as the third best team in the NL and the current playoff format is brutal to 3 seeds. I think the 6 seed should have to win all 3 games to advance. Giving a division winner a best-of-3 coin toss series is unfair. 

I guess it could be worse. Now that I live in Seattle, I have the joy of being a Mariners fan as well. Now that is a fanbase that has been tortured to death. If Seattle somehow wins a pennant before Milwaukee, then we'll know we have it bad. 

Yeah, I just listened to it too on the mlb app archive.  Absolutely heartbreaking to hear him call the homerun.  I think we've all dreamed of hearing Uecker call a WS win but with every passing year the odds get longer and longer.  This current postseason system is absolutely brutal.  It is awful to have to now win three series coinflips just to make it to a WS.

[wOOgiE22]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

As tempting, and valid as it may be to blame payroll disparity, the Tigers and Royals are both right there with us. And they both did the job. 

Yup, it’s just that the margin of error is just so small. When you can trot out a lineup like the Phillies and Dodgers, you have to be 100% on your A game to win. They can get away without playing their best and win most of the time. 

[adambr2]

Not for nothing, but this is now 5 out of our last 6 playoff games in which we have held a multi-run lead and blown it. 

[gypcasino]

1 hour ago, FidoMcCokefiend said:

What sucks most is knowing they will not ever win it all in my lifetime. This game is too unfair and too set up for the big spenders to win when it matters. 

It's like moving mountains to win a single postseason game. The thought of some year stringing together 11 or 13 wins to win the WS is an absurd pipe dream. 

[SomewhereInTime]

6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

As tempting, and valid as it may be to blame payroll disparity, the Tigers and Royals are both right there with us. And they both did the job. 

Payroll disparity only matters with getting to the postseason.  Winning a series is a coinflip.  Sure, the better team may win 55% of the time if they have a big advantage but you won't get a bigger edge than that in baseball.

[yourout]

2 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Not for nothing, but this is now 5 out of our last 6 playoff games in which we have held a multi-run lead and blown it. 

Ugh.. had forgotten it was that bad

[SomewhereInTime]

5 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Yup, it’s just that the margin of error is just so small. When you can trot out a lineup like the Phillies and Dodgers, you have to be 100% on your A game to win. They can get away without playing their best and win most of the time. 

The Dodgers have won the WS one out of their last seventeen postseason appearances.  Last year they were swept in the NLDS by a team that finished twenty games behind them.

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Payroll disparity only matters with getting to the postseason.  Winning a series is a coinflip.  Sure, the better team may win 55% of the time if they have a big advantage but you won't get a bigger edge than that in baseball.

If only winning a series were a coinflip to the Brewers. 

[adambr2]

When we were up 2-0 in the 9th and Devin came into the game, I let my guard down in that moment and let myself believe that it was going to happen. 

I won't make that mistake again. 

[SomewhereInTime]

Just now, adambr2 said:

If only winning a series were a coinflip to the Brewers. 

It is.  You can go 2/9 on coinflips like the Brewers have since '08 (Not including the covid year).  That's not really all that unlikely from a statistical standpoint.

[wOOgiE22]

5 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

The Dodgers have won the WS one out of their last seventeen postseason appearances.  Last year they were swept in the NLDS by a team that finished twenty games behind them.

Sure it can be a crapshoot in the playoffs, but at least your chances are better statistically by getting a bye into the NLDS. The Brewers almost have to be perfect in a season to get that. The big market teams don’t have to be as proven by this year. 

[SomewhereInTime]

1 minute ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Sure it can be a crapshoot in the playoffs, but at least your chances are better statistically by getting a bye into the NLDS. The Brewers almost have to be perfect in a season to get that. The big market teams don’t have to be as proven by this year. 

That is true.  Avoiding the extra round of coinflips is beneficial.  

[Team Canada]

7 hours ago, Team Canada said:

Chances are, we will end the season with a loss,
And it’ll hurt when it’s over,

Yep. It hurt.

[sobomp3]

19 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

Yeah, I just listened to it too on the mlb app archive.  Absolutely heartbreaking to hear him call the homerun.  I think we've all dreamed of hearing Uecker call a WS win but with every passing year the odds get longer and longer.  This current postseason system is absolutely brutal.  It is awful to have to now win three series coinflips just to make it to a WS.

Oh Jesus… lost in all of this is Uecker. I really thought this might just be the team to win it all for him too. 

[HarveysWBs]

[adambr2]

11 minutes ago, SomewhereInTime said:

It is.  You can go 2/9 on coinflips like the Brewers have since '08 (Not including the covid year).  That's not really all that unlikely from a statistical standpoint.

Have seen this play out too many times before for me personally to just chalk it up as us being a victim of random variation. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

9 minutes ago, wOOgiE22 said:

Sure it can be a crapshoot in the playoffs, but at least your chances are better statistically by getting a bye into the NLDS. The Brewers almost have to be perfect in a season to get that. The big market teams don’t have to be as proven by this year. 

Health is crucial for the mid-to-small market teams also. If Yelich is around all year, if Woodruff & Gasser are available for a full season, maybe WE'RE the ones waiting for the winner of the WC series.